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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://communities.bentley.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Form Modeling vs Architectural Designer tools</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/products/building/building_analysis___design/f/aecosim-speedikon-forum/85597/form-modeling-vs-architectural-designer-tools</link><description>Newby advice please - what is the relationship between Form Modeling tools and Architectural Designer tools or perhaps I should say Building Designer tools incl Structural and the Services? 
 I have a clue/note: &amp;quot;Form modeling = older TF tools incl more</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>Re: Form Modeling vs Architectural Designer tools</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/242945?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 30 Apr 2013 15:54:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:569a08c4-122d-499a-a217-af1865e5ffa5</guid><dc:creator>Johannes_</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;One other advantage the form modeling tool got is, that you can give it a &amp;#39;direction&amp;#39; for hatches and patterns. This can be useful for existing building elements or for simple parts where you just want to show a hatch or a pattern. When using solids you will end up always with a horizontal orientation of for example an insulation hatch.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Form Modeling vs Architectural Designer tools</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/242452?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2013 15:25:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:b02a5c98-da64-43f4-a935-f9bbb8aa15f7</guid><dc:creator>Thomas Voghera</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;TF-forms are cells and have been around since Brics made &amp;nbsp;Triforma 25+ years ago.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Essentially you can&amp;#39;t do anything more with &amp;#39;walls&amp;#39; than with TF-forms!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Other than you can use DGS. With TF-forms you use Parts+Components and Calculate. (edit- should be Quantify)&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;The important tools are Compound cells and cut resymbolisation relative naked MicroStation. No difference between Triforma and ABD there.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;DV/BVs are nice in 3d-modeling phase, a step up from 2d-3d-bridge in TF. But much much more complicated &amp;nbsp;to handle, both in 3d and in drawings and sheets. DEM &amp;#39;output&amp;#39; is so simple to work with and manage.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Form Modeling vs Architectural Designer tools</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/241812?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 22 Apr 2013 18:12:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:d3578be4-7384-4920-be4b-bcf22225112a</guid><dc:creator>Ian Lapper</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I concur. &amp;nbsp;These tools allow you to use other AECOsim tools, such as Door Windows, whereas Smart Solids don&amp;#39;t.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, the smart solids are not able to be promoted to AECOsim solids.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Form Modeling vs Architectural Designer tools</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/241785?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 22 Apr 2013 16:09:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:3aa8873c-d3ee-4c43-a4e6-d55623006dc1</guid><dc:creator>fostertom</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;So it&amp;#39;s a step up from basic Microstation solids for that? but is just extra useful tools for creating geometry?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Form Modeling vs Architectural Designer tools</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/241776?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 22 Apr 2013 15:18:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:1318a80a-26c5-4dfa-bca3-35b9b4a4059d</guid><dc:creator>Ian Lapper</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From my point of view, the use of Form modelling is used at the early stages of the design process i.e. where you do not know the make up of the walls. &amp;nbsp;So the form modelling tools are there to enable you to place walls and link doors and windows to them but have limited amount of Building data. &amp;nbsp;At some point in the future, you then substitute these walls for more defined walls via the Architectural walls tools using the apply part tool etc.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;HTH&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ian &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>