Place Stair tool

I find that if I mirror/copy a stair, the stair numbering comes out correct in the mirror copy.

If the stair is in a reference and I mirror/copy the reference, then the stair numbering gets mirrored which I obviously don't want...

Anyone come across that problem already?

  • Hi Mark,
    SR number 7000467380, cheers.
  • Hi Chris, sorry, you are right about the reference mirror case, I didn't test that one.
    Please can you file a Service Request, post the number here and I'll link it to a defect.
    Number of SR's linked to a defect is an important part of our prioritisation process.

    Marc

  • Well I am suggesting that this is pretty basic stuff that should be fixed. Any chance of you relaying that to the powers to be?
  • Hi Chris,
    No, the behavior hasn't changed since the original query above, for the same reason - the reference attachment is treated as a single entity. I've just tested this in MicroStation CONNECT and it is the same.

    It may be worthwhile posting to the Modeling and Visualization Forum to check with the MicroStation folks whether there's anything in the pipeline for something like this or if others have any suggestions.



  • Hi Mark, yes it does when you mirror a stair in an active file BUT it doesn't when the stair is in a reference file that is mirrored. At least not at this end... tbc...As an aside, the reference mirror tool could do with a few more choices just as in the "live" tool - mirror about a line for instance, mirror-copy ( at present must copy first THEN mirror...) etc.

    Bear in mind this is stuff I see was queried 5 or 6 years ago - although in the context of plain Microstation... But anyhow it's pretty useful to be able to mirror a reference without mirroring the text - as for instance in a duplex typical unit in a residential development.

    Alternative would be to create a cell, but a different problem arise with cells in DV - the unification doesn't occur... Not to mention that for a cell that includes a stair, the origin of the cell has to be chosen to be at (0,0,0) otherwise the cell's stair will not be in the original location... At least AFAIK :-((( 

    I guess in the meantime we should revert to annotating stair numbers on the sheet/drawing... But from a BIM perspective (or is BIM just another paradigm?), this does seem outrageous does it not...