Unified section of a wall at different levels

Hello, I have a wall composed of stone slabs, insulation, brick (structural) and gypsum, for example.

This walls is unified in the section. Is it possible that these walls are in different levels in the section? Now I just want to see the structural wall (bricks- structural). I do not want to see all the parts of the wall (stone slabs, insulation and gymsum).

Each wall uses the symbology of the unifier part and not the symbology the each wall.

I can put each part of the wall in a different model (for example: facade, structural and interior) , but then, the windows and doors, it do not perforate all parts of the wall, only one model.

Thank you.

Joaquín

 

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  • If I understand you correctly  - I keep all parts of my walls in the same files - I divide up by areas - Exterior Walls - Interior Walls, Stairs, etc.

    If the parts are each defined well and the levels you use are defined (ie Strucutral, Walls, etc.)

    Then you would be able to make only structural show in a model and the inherant window would cut into the wall but be cut off in levels.

    Then to show - if a Structural wall - is at different levels (steps in height)  it would depend on where you do your section cut or DV.  If you cut in the middle of both they will not show a step -  as at that point there is no step.  However if you cut from above it will show the step.  Some of the "faking" we do by hand still might have to be done.

    Note there might be a trick.  Many times I don't unify concrete - for example -  as in there might be a control joint there.  So in your case.  where the step is - is there maybe a control joint every time?  If so - don't unify.

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  • Hello Eric, thank you for your help.

    I explain the problem in the pdf. If only active level structural wall, the problem is that the section is not reset.

    See pdf.

    Thank you

     

    Joaquín

     

  • Ah.... I think I understand now.    Because DVs are "live" and not independently generated geometry like drawing extraction, you cannot turn off levels off without affecting the unified geometry when all of the wall's layers are using a common unifier.    IOW, the edges are removed because all of the layers use the same level and are coincident with each other, so they are essentially be "unified out" of display.

    The only way I've found to get similar results using DVs is to turn off the non-structural levels, disable unification (the structural joint lines will display), cache the drawing, use the Copy/Hide Cached Element option to generate new geometry (similar to DEM), then delete those joint lines.   You should end up with something similar to this:

    This would look the same in the Drawing Model or when the DV is applied to the 3D Model.

    That's about the best I could come up with working within this scenario. 



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  • Ok, this is a solution, but if you have that modify the model, then you have to change the drawing manually. It is more time.

    Only occurs when you turn off levels.

    If you turn off the references no occur.

    I think that this case is best DEM.

    Bentley have that find a solution best.

    Thank you for your help.

    Regards.

    Joaquín

  • I still don't understand - we have two ways which may be what you are looking for and are releveant for those that do not what any detail in a building section.
    I have TWO datasets
    One which works with all materials working. All displaying as they should for a good detail.

    Then I have a 2nd for Schetches - where all material unify and give me a hatched wall volume.

    Pain as I'd rather have a "Sketch" switch that dos just unification ALL.

    The problem here is when I use both in the same drawings - for this reason a switch on the refence pacement would be preferable.
  • Could this be achieved using a compound wall for structural part.
    Wall would be composed of two component parts of identical width.
    One part would be set to unify with other parts and set to be drawn on A_WALL.
    Other part would not unify with other parts and set to be drawn on A_WALL_STRUCTURAL.

    When you want to see unified wall turn off A_WALL_STRUCTURAL and leave everything else on.
    When you want to see only structural wall, turn off everything but A_WALL_STRUCTURAL.

    Just a thought.

  • The only potential downside I see is that the non-unified layer when displayed by itself would, well, not be unified. :)



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