Unified section of a wall at different levels

Question

Hello, I have a wall composed of stone slabs, insulation, brick (structural) and gypsum, for example. 
 This walls is unified in the section. Is it possible that these walls are in different levels in the section? Now I just want to see the structural wall (bricks- structural). I do not want to see all the parts of the wall (stone slabs, insulation and gymsum). 
 Each wall uses the symbology of the unifier part and not the symbology the each wall. 
 I can put each part of the wall in a different model (for example: facade, structural and interior) , but then, the windows and doors, it do not perforate all parts of the wall, only one model. 
 Thank you. 
 Joaqu&iacute;n 
 
 AECOsim 08.11.09.376

Steve Cocchi · Accepted Answer

Ah.... I think I understand now. Because DVs are "live" and not independently generated geometry like drawing extraction, you cannot turn off levels off without affecting the unified geometry when all of the wall's layers are using a common unifier. IOW, the edges are removed because all of the layers use the same level and are coincident with each other, so they are essentially be "unified out" of display. 
 The only way I've found to get similar results using DVs is to turn off the non-structural levels, disable unification (the structural joint lines will display), cache the drawing, use the Copy/Hide Cached Element option to generate new geometry (similar to DEM), then delete those joint lines. You should end up with something similar to this: 
 
 This would look the same in the Drawing Model or when the DV is applied to the 3D Model. 
 That's about the best I could come up with working within this scenario.

Marc Thomas · Answer

Modify the unifier associated with the parts, bear in mind that this may result in unwanted junctions where parts have different symbology. 
 Also consider that the section is only a final presentation of your model data and confirm that elements do actually need to be on different levels to allow you to turn them on/off separately. If you do not need to control their display separately they do not need to be on separate levels. 
 The underlying elements are on separate levels so can be controlled upstream in the Saved View. If there is a need to change level display in the Drawing or Sheet Model is this because the level display in the original saved view is incorrect? 
 In that case go back to the original Saved View, set the levels appropriately and Update the Saved View.

Steve Cocchi · Answer

Keep in mind that when generating drawings it is the assigned Part's Section + Forward/Reflected symbology settings (including levels) that will be used, not necessarily the same levels as you would turn on and off in the 3D Model. 
 So in the Drawing, you can right-click on any given wall layer and control its display independently of the others. Would this do what you needed?

Tom Danner · Answer

Could this be achieved using a compound wall for structural part.
Wall would be composed of two component parts of identical width.
One part would be set to unify with other parts and set to be drawn on A_WALL.
Other part would not unify with other parts and set to be drawn on A_WALL_STRUCTURAL.

When you want to see unified wall turn off A_WALL_STRUCTURAL and leave everything else on.
When you want to see only structural wall, turn off everything but A_WALL_STRUCTURAL.

Just a thought.

EricMilberger · Answer

Two solutions - I think 
 Option A - keeps model smaller - But requires Bentley Mod 
 
 Create a wall like you normally would 
 Let Bentley have a switch in your View Attributes for Architecture to Unify ALL Walls 
 This give you a schematic wall 
 
 Option B - can be done now but involves more work 
 
 Create your wall like normal 
 Add one more part that is the size of the overall walls (yes walls) 
 Then cut off levels you don't want