Playing around with spaces for the first time, and running into some basic problems.
When Bentley SpacePlanner is used in the Building Designer environment, 3D space placement functionality is disabled. 3D space planning and placement is available only when Bentley SpacePlanner is running in the MicroStation environment.
Any hints of some experts about how to get the best out of spaces?
Hi Andreas,
Although I did not find a shortcut either, but I was able to load the space planner within ABD via the pull down Building Designer > Load Space Planner. I also see that once the Space Planner is loaded you will be able to convert shapes (2D) to a choice of Building, Floor or Spaces from the Create Space from Shape tool. You may be able to find answers for the rest of your questions after loading the Space Planner. Hope this helps and good luck.
kns1010.
PS. I may be wrong but my understanding is that to associate spaces to datagroup properties, you more likely would need to create Family/Part in the dataset then within the ABD environment create and attach definitions as required in the DataCatelog.
Andreas,
There is not a SpacePlanner delivered shortcut, but as kns1010 noted you can Load Space Planner from the Building Designer menu. I do not believe that Bentley supports the "SpacePlanner for MicroStation" application under the ABD license. I believe that you have to be running ABD and as such 3D spaces are not currently supported. I wrote a post a while ago for Tom Danner about how to configure ABD with a SpacePlanner shortcut that you can refer to the link below.
http://communities.bentley.com/products/building/building_analysis___design/f/5917/p/82062/228805.aspx#228805
If that is right that you can't use 3D spaces, I wonder why the delivered datasets have formulas for volume and height for spaces in their report components?
Come one, guys.
Anyone with any idea how it is possible to have those formulas for volume and height in parts that are expected to be 2D only.
Is there any example project from Bentley that shows how it works?
I have only used Spaces to get room artefacts/labels. And room schedules from that. But it should be very useful in early stages also. You can go from a spreadsheet to Spaces directly.
As far as I understand Spaces are 2d shapes with DGS data telling their height. And the height is also used for inclusion in the cut.
I think the idea was to use it in the Triforma 2d-3d-bridge concept. Drawing simple shapes first to create a plan, then using CREATE WALLS FROM SPACE tool to get 3d.
Some of us thought it would have been better too use slabs for that, as they are easier to modify, both in plan, height and slope. Especially with draw on solid tools which originates from the same time.
regards / Thomas Voghera
As Thomas outlined, the ceiling height value is used when determing whether a space should be included in a drawing - if the Forward View intersects the ceiling height value then include that space label.
I believe the volume of spaces may also be retained for energy analysis through gbXML export.