I'm having all sorts of trouble with the Floor Penetrations Tool. If you refer to the attached screen grab, you'll see that the heads-up dimensions for this penetration differ from the dimensions reported in DataGroup Explorer!?
The peno was orginally placed at the size shown in DG Explorer and then resized using the two blue handles only. So why did the DataGroup Explorer not update? Element Information > Properties also shows the incorrect DG Explorer values, greyed out. The catalog shows these values as "Parametric Name - Width" and "Parametric Name - Length".
Also, if I try and type values into the heads-up values then DataGroup Explorer refreshes properly, but... the penetration no longer cuts a hole in the slab.
I also seem to be able to select the perforator seperately from the cross-lines and resize this without either the cross-lines or datagroup explorer updating.
Can someone confirm whether this is just me. Otherwise it looks like this tool is a complete mess - we certainly can't use it for construction information with these errors occuring.
Couple of other general queries - why does the penetration only have two blue resize handles, rather than 4?
Why is there no level assigned to the cross-lines? I don't seem to have any control to switch it on or off in my plans - I'm assuming I can edit the PAZ file to assign levels, but can't understand why this wouldn't already be set up?
Mark
ABD SS3 ANZ DataSet
Never used the tool before. Did some small tests.
I get strange results in lieu with Mark.
Tool not usable as it is now.
ABD ss4, Swedish dataset.
regards / Thomas Voghera
The problem with non-sync values of the datagroup properties and the geometry is old, but it has been fixed in the latest release. You shouldn't have that problem now.
Regarding level of the crosses, I would propose that you fix it yourself. If I remember it correctly, they are in fact on a level, but not one that is used in Norway. But if you know a little bit of PCS, you can fix that for yourself.
- start up Aecosim
- Building Designer - Parametric Cell Studio
- open the .paz cell
- File - Properties - Family and Parts
If that isn't working, there are also other possibilities in PCS.
Thanks Andreas,
I've managed to fix the crosses level with the method you've described. Thanks you!
One issue - The crosses appear on a "construction" class for rectangular slab / wall penetrations and for circular wall penetrations. For some reason they're not on constructions for circular slab penetrations though. Any idea how I fix this in PCS also? I can't find any options to change classes.
Also you say the sync of geometry / datagroup has been fixed in the latest version? Do you mean in SS4? This doesn't seem to be the case if Thomas is saying he's getting the same results using that version, can anyone confirm this for us?
Regarding crosses, you are right, they are on a construction class. I have no idea, why, and what consequences this has.
Regarding changing dimensions, I have tried that once again and it works like a charm here.
Inserted one penetration, copied it and dragged the handles. Changes are immediatly reflected in the datagroup properties. Vice versa no problem either, changed the properties, cell updated accordingly.
I'm still having the same problem using your file.
Are you on SS4? We're using SS3 so hopefully its something that was fixed in the newer version.