AECOsim Building Designer, SELECTseries 4 - Dataset NM (Neutral Metric)

Hi,

Here in Brasil, I use to install the AECOsim with the GB Metric Dataset and add my DGNLibs, Families, DataGroup definitions and Libraries.

The problem is that I get lots of layers, families, and other stuff that I don´t need.

Whem I first saw the Neutral Metric Dataset, I thought that my wishes came true, a clean metric dataset to start a company based new one, but no.

What I am doing now is to remove everything that is not needed, but it is not a simple task.

Is there a chance that a real neutral metric dataset exists?

Regards,

Adolfo

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  • Andreas,

    All the levels are sored at .dgnlib files at the folder ...workspace\BuildingDatasets\Dataset_GB\dgnlig (GB dataset folders), and the files containning the levels are names Levels_Discipline-AEC(UK).dgnlib (disciplines are Architectural, Electrical, mechanical and Structural)

    You can see the equivavent levels libraries at the Level Manager and turnning on the field Library at the top of the list of levels with right click.

    Levels are created in the dgn file only when used, as well discussed at the post you recomended, thanks.

    To really get rid of the undesired levels you need to open the DGNLIB files and delete then, and also change the levels where they are used (parts definitions, cells, ...).

    This really takes time, and that is why I would like to have a clean dataset, only with generic levels (equipments, walls, ...)

    Regards,

  • I would suggest reading through the C:\ProgramData\Bentley\AECOsimBuildingDesigner V8i Ss4\WorkSpace\BuildingDatasets\Dataset_NM\NM Dataset Contents HELP Guide.pdf to see if that helps any.

    In very broad terms, without catalogs, parts, levels, cells, etc, none of the ABD placement tools would work since there would be no data to load.   And with that said, I'd imagine there are many variations to what one user views as a starting point vs. the next, so any of our datasets will at least allow you to load and immediately use the product.  



  • ... with implication - "modify and delete from there"

    But whereas adding extras and complexity is easy (?) adding simplification is dangerously impractical without clear understanding of what does what. It's not documented in any systematic explanatory way, but left to the intuitions and past-experience insights of the old-hands - and even they have many questions.

  • Hi Adolfo,

    "Is there a chance that a real neutral metric dataset exists?"

    Please expand on this so we can understand what you were hoping for.

    Regards

    Marc

  • Hi Marc,

    I mean, instead of have several levels and parts for a Door(ex.: DoorDoubleFlush of UK Dataset, with coded names - A-G322-M-M-DoorsFrame...), it could be one for 3D, one for 2D and other for Elevation. Cause if you want to change the parts and levels of PAZ, BXC definition it turns to be a hard work.

    Also, the parametric delivered contents(Doors, windows, plumbing and HVAC elements...), could be more simple, a construction firm do not manufacture a door, but needs a parametric cel to guarantee dimensions and takeoffs.

    The user could decide what level of complexity needed for his implementation, and evolve his workspace to attend the company needs, instead of having a huge and complex dataset that needs a specialist to make any change or improvement.

    Just to add a thought, I know that for a big company, the costs of software and consulting for implementation is not an issue, but for small business, with skilled professionals that wants a practical way to start doing BIM, this complexity can be a decision maker in terms choosing what is the best software to use. This new generation of professionals wants to open the software and start to work immediately, they do not read manuals of cellphones, TVs...

    Best Regards,

    Adolfo

  • Tom,

    Could you elaborate a bit more on the specifics of what you'd be looking for?    This could be a good topic for a Wiki article depending on the depth required.



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