Isolate, or is it Displayset>Set?

Attempting to follow AskInga's 'Hide Elements by using options in the right click menus'

http://communities.bentley.com/communities/other_communities/askinga/w/askinga/5926.aspx

First, has Display Set been re-named Isolate? Did anyone tell us? - it's not updated in Help.

Second, having done R click>Select All>R click>Isolate, the Ref'd-in drawing disappears as it should, but the Linear Forms and Free Forms don't - are they immune to Isolate?

  • I think the linework dissappearing in the Ref with TAAEFM set could be a bug but it may actually be WAD. I don't like having that set on a Ref because when you do Level Off can't be used to hide a particular Level in that Ref.

    With TAAEFM the Ref is treated like a block/cell, and only the Level from the "cell header" (Level setting of the Ref) is shown or hidden, not the levels of the actual reference.

    In the same logic, if you do an Isolate on that Ref only the elements on the level of the cell header are shown and that probably means all the linework will dissappear. It's probably logical, but not very useful.

  • Is this suitable for a SR? I would like someone to look at these 2 questions:

    a) why the confusing dual terminology, introducing Acad-alike 'Isolate' meaning same as 'Displayset>Set'.

    Unknown said:
    Displayset's additional features, Add and Remove for instance, might sound a bit odd if Displayset was renamed Isolate
    I suggest the opposite - get rid of Isolate, forget defect 86647 - why shouldn't the Ctrl+RMB command read literally 'Displayset>Set' instead of 'Isolate'?

    b) why shouldn't selecting a ref for inclusion in a Displayset (to remain visible as-is) count as a Manipulation as defined by the setting 'Treat Attachment as an Element for Manipulation'? Why, with TAAAEFM set, should the ref's linework disappear after Displayset>Set, leaving only its boundary visible? I understand that technically with TAAEFM set, only the ref's boundary gets selected, not its contents, but still ...

    Can I file a SR that simply gives a link to this thread, instead of writing it all out again?

  • Unknown said:
    people tend to have their references in the right place ... so less need to move them around

    Unknown said:
    I don't like having that set on a Ref because ...
    Quite agree - I only set it when I want to reposition the ref e.g. a 2D plan ref to exactly the height where its line ends can be snapped to draw the base line of a BD Form. Other times I want the 2D plan ref hovering well above the solids so its linework doesn't get in the way but is till useful in Top view. After moving the ref, unset TAAEFM again.