ABD ss4 difference between section and elevation in Create Building views

Thomas,

Have you tried increasing the Sense Distance of the Forward View to treat elements that are not cut by the Interior Elevation Callout's location, but you still want to be treated as cut?  Also, most compound cells do not have Front/Side Symbols so it is typical that forward symbols are turned off.  

Travis

I see far enough in front view - that's not the problem.

What I want you to confirm is that it is a SECTION, not a true elevation of something.

I could also turn on the back view to show the context of the toilet compartments that are behind the step.

I would think think the answer is:

It is a section in both cases.

One actually cuts through something and one does not because you cut through space in FRONT of all the objects.

Any elevation, external or 'room', same for roof plan, must be a section - otherwise results unpredictable if the system's trying to decide for you, what to exclude. User can and should be the judge and executor of that.

Travis - yes those are better.

But have a try from one point in a non-rectangular room.

And as stated several times - the tool is cool - but should not be called 'elevation'.

Hi Thomas,

An Elevation is a particular type of Section.

• In the case of exterior elevations the only thing that is seen in section is (usually) the ground plane and adjoining buildings.
• For interior elevations the big fat line wraps around to become a shape, as illustrated above by Travis.
• On the drawing board we just drew a big fat line along the ground plane/walls/floor/ceiling and were not interested in anything below/outside that line.
• In software we have more options, things that we would not make the effort to draw may be easily available so need to be excluded.

In our software creating an Elevation Callout picks the appropriate detailing symbol, sets the saved View type, allows Elevations to be grouped in Project Explorer etc. so it is an Elevation tool.

Hi Thomas,

An Elevation is a particular type of Section.

• In the case of exterior elevations the only thing that is seen in section is (usually) the ground plane and adjoining buildings.
• For interior elevations the big fat line wraps around to become a shape, as illustrated above by Travis.
• On the drawing board we just drew a big fat line along the ground plane/walls/floor/ceiling and were not interested in anything below/outside that line.
• In software we have more options, things that we would not make the effort to draw may be easily available so need to be excluded.

In our software creating an Elevation Callout picks the appropriate detailing symbol, sets the saved View type, allows Elevations to be grouped in Project Explorer etc. so it is an Elevation tool.

No Marc, elevations and sections are different animals.

Test the tool in a non-rectangular room.

I think the thought process of what an elevation or section are need to change a bit as what we use has changed

• I see the same of a section looking at the front of the building and clip, hide or hatch over the footing if shown.  sometime even make then dashed so you see more that a typical elevation but the same as the was some have drafted for years.
• O don't know if we can only show the interior perimeter of the section.  I have seen plenty that show the wall section also.  It can become a section elevation at the same time doing more in a construction document.  Interior pattern of walls can do just as well as the thick lines.
• I don't know if you need to do that but rather change the thought process.

Now if it is a curve you have to strech out I will conceed to the need for a manual elevation.

But for any flat wall you can position a cut in an interior room in front of a wall or outside the building in front of a wall and get great elevations.