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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://communities.bentley.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"><channel><title>Controlling Joist Visibility in Structural DocumentationCenter TN</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/products/building/building_analysis___design/w/building_analysis_and_design__wiki/4380/controlling-joist-visibility-in-structural-documentationcenter-tn</link><description /><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>Controlling Joist Visibility in Structural DocumentationCenter TN</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/products/building/building_analysis___design/w/building_analysis_and_design__wiki/4380/controlling-joist-visibility-in-structural-documentationcenter-tn</link><pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2020 23:17:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:b286a114-05ec-4916-870d-8c4b0f6c4631</guid><dc:creator>Steve Cocchi</dc:creator><comments>https://communities.bentley.com/products/building/building_analysis___design/w/building_analysis_and_design__wiki/4380/controlling-joist-visibility-in-structural-documentationcenter-tn#comments</comments><description>Current Revision posted to OpenBuildings | AECOsim | Speedikon Wiki by Steve Cocchi on 2/28/2020 11:17:09 PM&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;h1 style="margin:24pt 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#365f91;font-family:Cambria;"&gt;Joist Visibility\Dataset Assignment&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;
&lt;div class=""&gt;&lt;span style="color:#1f497d;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;If joists do not show up in your plan views it is because they are assigned a dataset Family=Steel Bar Joist and Part=Members. The drawing rule in the model Part=Envelope. The dataset assignment in the Analysis Import dialog box needs to match the drawing rule.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=""&gt;&lt;span style="color:#1f497d;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;&lt;img alt=" " border="0" src="/resized-image.ashx/__size/550x0/__key/CommunityServer-Wikis-Components-Files/00-00-00-00-54/1854.JoistVisibility1.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=""&gt;&lt;span style="color:#1f497d;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;Here is the drawing rule that is being used for Framing Plans. The left column is the dataset assignment&amp;hellip;.the Drawing Definition rule in the model is set up to resymbolize &amp;ldquo;Steel Bar Joists: Envelope&amp;rdquo;. Any members that do not match one of these criteria will not be shown. So, the joists in the model are being skipped because Part=Members does not match the drawing rule Part=Envelope. Even though the Family=Steel Bar Joist is the same.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=""&gt;&lt;span style="color:#1f497d;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;The Bar Joist tool in Bentley Structural creates an envelope in addition to detailed members. The various components normally have different dataset assignments.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=""&gt;&lt;span style="color:#1f497d;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;In the case of RAM Structural System we bring in only the &amp;ldquo;Envelope&amp;rdquo; &amp;ndash; no detailed members &amp;ndash; so that is why the drawing rule is tied to an Envelope part. See the drawing rule definition below. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img alt=" " border="0" src="/resized-image.ashx/__size/550x0/__key/CommunityServer-Wikis-Components-Files/00-00-00-00-54/5518.JoistVisibility2.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div class=""&gt;&lt;span style="color:#1f497d;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;You can use the Information tool to see the dataset assignment. Here is a joist set to Members instead of Envelope: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=""&gt;&lt;span style="color:#1f497d;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;&lt;img alt=" " border="0" src="/resized-image.ashx/__size/550x0/__key/CommunityServer-Wikis-Components-Files/00-00-00-00-54/7317.JoistVisibility3.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img alt=" " border="0" src="/resized-image.ashx/__size/550x0/__key/CommunityServer-Wikis-Components-Files/00-00-00-00-54/5633.JoistVisibility4.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;div style="font-size: 90%;"&gt;Tags: structural engineering, import, RAM Structural System, Structural Modeler, Bentley Structural&lt;/div&gt;
</description></item><item><title>Controlling Joist Visibility in Structural DocumentationCenter TN</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/products/building/building_analysis___design/w/building_analysis_and_design__wiki/4380/controlling-joist-visibility-in-structural-documentationcenter-tn/revision/2</link><pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 20:40:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:b286a114-05ec-4916-870d-8c4b0f6c4631</guid><dc:creator>Jeremy Hoesly</dc:creator><comments>https://communities.bentley.com/products/building/building_analysis___design/w/building_analysis_and_design__wiki/4380/controlling-joist-visibility-in-structural-documentationcenter-tn#comments</comments><description>Revision 2 posted to OpenBuildings | AECOsim | Speedikon Wiki by Jeremy Hoesly on 8/20/2010 8:40:56 PM&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;h1 style="margin:24pt 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#365f91;font-family:Cambria;"&gt;Joist Visibility\Dataset Assignment&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#1f497d;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;If joists do not show up in your plan views it is because they are assigned a dataset Family=Steel Bar Joist and Part=Members. The drawing rule in the model Part=Envelope. The dataset assignment in the Analysis Import dialog box needs to match the drawing rule.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#1f497d;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="/resized-image.ashx/__size/550x0/__key/CommunityServer-Wikis-Components-Files/00-00-00-00-54/1854.JoistVisibility1.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#1f497d;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;Here is the drawing rule that is being used for Framing Plans. The left column is the dataset assignment&amp;hellip;.the Drawing Definition rule in the model is set up to resymbolize &amp;ldquo;Steel Bar Joists: Envelope&amp;rdquo;. Any members that do not match one of these criteria will not be shown. So, the joists in the model are being skipped because Part=Members does not match the drawing rule Part=Envelope. Even though the Family=Steel Bar Joist is the same.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#1f497d;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;The Bar Joist tool in Bentley Structural creates an envelope in addition to detailed members. The various components normally have different dataset assignments.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#1f497d;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;In the case of RAM Structural System we bring in only the &amp;ldquo;Envelope&amp;rdquo; &amp;ndash; no detailed members &amp;ndash; so that is why the drawing rule is tied to an Envelope part. See the drawing rule definition below. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="/resized-image.ashx/__size/550x0/__key/CommunityServer-Wikis-Components-Files/00-00-00-00-54/5518.JoistVisibility2.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#1f497d;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;You can use the Information tool to see the dataset assignment. Here is a joist set to Members instead of Envelope: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#1f497d;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="/resized-image.ashx/__size/550x0/__key/CommunityServer-Wikis-Components-Files/00-00-00-00-54/7317.JoistVisibility3.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="/resized-image.ashx/__size/550x0/__key/CommunityServer-Wikis-Components-Files/00-00-00-00-54/5633.JoistVisibility4.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;div style="font-size: 90%;"&gt;Tags: structural engineering, import, RAM Structural System, Structural Modeler, Bentley Structural&lt;/div&gt;
</description></item><item><title>Controlling Joist Visibility in Structural DocumentationCenter TN</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/products/building/building_analysis___design/w/building_analysis_and_design__wiki/4380/controlling-joist-visibility-in-structural-documentationcenter-tn/revision/3</link><pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 20:40:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:b286a114-05ec-4916-870d-8c4b0f6c4631</guid><dc:creator>Jeremy Hoesly</dc:creator><comments>https://communities.bentley.com/products/building/building_analysis___design/w/building_analysis_and_design__wiki/4380/controlling-joist-visibility-in-structural-documentationcenter-tn#comments</comments><description>Revision 3 posted to OpenBuildings | AECOsim | Speedikon Wiki by Jeremy Hoesly on 8/20/2010 8:40:56 PM&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;h1 style="margin:24pt 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#365f91;font-family:Cambria;"&gt;Joist Visibility\Dataset Assignment&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;
&lt;div class=""&gt;&lt;span style="color:#1f497d;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;If joists do not show up in your plan views it is because they are assigned a dataset Family=Steel Bar Joist and Part=Members. The drawing rule in the model Part=Envelope. The dataset assignment in the Analysis Import dialog box needs to match the drawing rule.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=""&gt;&lt;span style="color:#1f497d;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="/resized-image.ashx/__size/550x0/__key/CommunityServer-Wikis-Components-Files/00-00-00-00-54/1854.JoistVisibility1.jpg" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=""&gt;&lt;span style="color:#1f497d;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;Here is the drawing rule that is being used for Framing Plans. The left column is the dataset assignment&amp;hellip;.the Drawing Definition rule in the model is set up to resymbolize &amp;ldquo;Steel Bar Joists: Envelope&amp;rdquo;. Any members that do not match one of these criteria will not be shown. So, the joists in the model are being skipped because Part=Members does not match the drawing rule Part=Envelope. Even though the Family=Steel Bar Joist is the same.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=""&gt;&lt;span style="color:#1f497d;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;The Bar Joist tool in Bentley Structural creates an envelope in addition to detailed members. The various components normally have different dataset assignments.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=""&gt;&lt;span style="color:#1f497d;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;In the case of RAM Structural System we bring in only the &amp;ldquo;Envelope&amp;rdquo; &amp;ndash; no detailed members &amp;ndash; so that is why the drawing rule is tied to an Envelope part. See the drawing rule definition below. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="/resized-image.ashx/__size/550x0/__key/CommunityServer-Wikis-Components-Files/00-00-00-00-54/5518.JoistVisibility2.jpg" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div class=""&gt;&lt;span style="color:#1f497d;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;You can use the Information tool to see the dataset assignment. Here is a joist set to Members instead of Envelope: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=""&gt;&lt;span style="color:#1f497d;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="/resized-image.ashx/__size/550x0/__key/CommunityServer-Wikis-Components-Files/00-00-00-00-54/7317.JoistVisibility3.jpg" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="/resized-image.ashx/__size/550x0/__key/CommunityServer-Wikis-Components-Files/00-00-00-00-54/5633.JoistVisibility4.jpg" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;div style="font-size: 90%;"&gt;Tags: structural engineering, import, RAM Structural System, Structural Modeler, Bentley Structural&lt;/div&gt;
</description></item><item><title>Controlling Joist Visibility in Structural DocumentationCenter TN</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/products/building/building_analysis___design/w/building_analysis_and_design__wiki/4380/controlling-joist-visibility-in-structural-documentationcenter-tn/revision/1</link><pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 21:05:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:b286a114-05ec-4916-870d-8c4b0f6c4631</guid><dc:creator>Steve Crabtree</dc:creator><comments>https://communities.bentley.com/products/building/building_analysis___design/w/building_analysis_and_design__wiki/4380/controlling-joist-visibility-in-structural-documentationcenter-tn#comments</comments><description>Revision 1 posted to OpenBuildings | AECOsim | Speedikon Wiki by Steve Crabtree on 8/19/2010 9:05:56 PM&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="background-color:#888888;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h1 style="margin:24pt 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#365f91;font-family:Cambria;"&gt;Joist Visibility\Dataset Assignment&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#1f497d;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;If joists do not show up in your plan views it is because they are assigned a dataset Family=Steel Bar Joist and Part=Members. The drawing rule in the model Part=Envelope. The dataset assignment in the Analysis Import dialog box needs to match the drawing rule.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#1f497d;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="/resized-image.ashx/__size/550x0/__key/CommunityServer-Wikis-Components-Files/00-00-00-00-54/1854.JoistVisibility1.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#1f497d;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;Here is the drawing rule that is being used for Framing Plans. The left column is the dataset assignment&amp;hellip;.the Drawing Definition rule in the model is set up to resymbolize &amp;ldquo;Steel Bar Joists: Envelope&amp;rdquo;. Any members that do not match one of these criteria will not be shown. So, the joists in the model are being skipped because Part=Members does not match the drawing rule Part=Envelope. Even though the Family=Steel Bar Joist is the same.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#1f497d;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;The Bar Joist tool in Bentley Structural creates an envelope in addition to detailed members. The various components normally have different dataset assignments.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#1f497d;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;In the case of RAM Structural System we bring in only the &amp;ldquo;Envelope&amp;rdquo; &amp;ndash; no detailed members &amp;ndash; so that is why the drawing rule is tied to an Envelope part. See the drawing rule definition below. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="/resized-image.ashx/__size/550x0/__key/CommunityServer-Wikis-Components-Files/00-00-00-00-54/5518.JoistVisibility2.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#1f497d;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;You can use the Information tool to see the dataset assignment. Here is a joist set to Members instead of Envelope: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#1f497d;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="/resized-image.ashx/__size/550x0/__key/CommunityServer-Wikis-Components-Files/00-00-00-00-54/7317.JoistVisibility3.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="/resized-image.ashx/__size/550x0/__key/CommunityServer-Wikis-Components-Files/00-00-00-00-54/5633.JoistVisibility4.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;div style="font-size: 90%;"&gt;Tags: Bentley Structural, RAM Structural System, structural engineering, Structural Modeler, import&lt;/div&gt;
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