XFM feature symbology to element templates

It's a good idea.  Unfortunately XFM is a Geospatial technology.  If it were part of the platform (i.e. MicroStation) then it could be used in other application areas.  A link to the XML schema might be stored in a DGNLIB.  It would make sense at that point to be integrated with element templates.  

That is the key problem Cad (MS) vs Geospatial technology (BM) in Bentley products, where in this case is the Bentley´s slogan word "Interoperability" excisting ????

Thanks Jerry.

Given your positive attitude then I'm sure some regular/direct surveys of customer attitudes will only confirm your feelings.

Given the relatively minor cost of collecting such on-line surveys these days it could do no harm and possibly provide benefits to Bentley.

I'd give it a go. Who knows what useful information you may discover?

Tom,

One suggestion is that you could simply use your Oracle enabled XFM project schema (w/o connecting to Oracle) in Bentley Map along with their placement methods etc... to place and edit XFM feature instances that would never be posted back to Oracle.

Thanks Jeff for this reply.

Allo All,

Let me thank you all for your feedback on this community. At Bentley we have the Product Management group which is responsible for gathering feedback from different sources (support, BE Communities, direct customer visits, sales report, market trend, etc) and then build the roadmap out of it. So we invite you to continue providing your feedback to us via the BE communities or support or directly to our product managers. Bentley has never been more market driven than today, but it seems that we have to find better ways to communicate with our users as you don’t seem to be sharing this point of view...

So let me start here by pointing you out to the “What’s Coming in Bentley Map V8i (Selectseries 3)” communities.bentley.com/.../184280.aspx . We have just posted it trying to be a little more transparent.

On the interoperability between Bentley Map and the other Bentley products (including Microstation) we are working on multiple things that would be available in Bentley Map V8i (SELECTseries 3).

• Enhancement to i-model publishing so that it supports RDBMS project in addition to currently available XFM based project.
• Export to DGN element inside the Map Manager supporting XFM, and Map Manager symbology which will convert all XFM features into plain MicroStation elements with the right symbology.

I love the idea of survey and we have done a few in the past on specific topics. I will have a look at your suggestion and certainly implement this for the Geospatial group, as we are trying to be as market driven as possible.

Thanks

Francois Valois MBA, Senior Product Manager, Geospatial Desktop

Thank you Francois.

There are a number of very positive points in your feedback and I'm sure we all look forward to to SELECTseries 3. :-)

If I could make one final suggestion.........

I'd try and 'under promise' and 'over deliver' as much as possible at this stage with the product. Many of the inclusions do sound good and if a relatively bug free version could be delivered 'sooner rather than later' I think it would be viewed very positively. Unfortunately with some companies 'Early 2012' inevitable means 'post June 2012' when what's really needed is 'Late 2011' or 'VERY early 2012'.

Thank you again for your feedback.

Jeff,

Thank you for the suggestion, I have tried our suggestion and therefore I ask for ideas to have the same standardized symbology in MS as in BM.

Why I try to get the symbology to standard MS is for speed and perfomance. In most project we are using laserscanned data (millions loaded) and also huge dtm:s (Terrasolid applications) in combination with vector graphics and  high resolution raster reference files , to be able to do everything ready (standardized) in one session without perfomance lost I want to use only MS.

I have notised that when BM is loaded the MS environment is much slower (and crashes) in large projects ( I don´t know why). Is this something that anyone else has noticed?

//Tom

Jeff,

Thank you for the suggestion, I have tried our suggestion and therefore I ask for ideas to have the same standardized symbology in MS as in BM.

Why I try to get the symbology to standard MS is for speed and perfomance. In most project we are using laserscanned data (millions loaded) and also huge dtm:s (Terrasolid applications) in combination with vector graphics and  high resolution raster reference files , to be able to do everything ready (standardized) in one session without perfomance lost I want to use only MS.

I have notised that when BM is loaded the MS environment is much slower (and crashes) in large projects ( I don´t know why). Is this something that anyone else has noticed?

//Tom