Hi all
We are in the process of upgrading from Microstation Geographics to Bentley Map. We have never used the Geographic project, we have only used the functions in Geograhic.
I’m struggling with configuring Bentley Map – or to be more precise the msgeo_appl.cfg file.
Here is what I want: Bentley Map shall behave just as a normal Microstation, just where I have access to the Bentley Map functions. So I do not want a XFM project or something like that.
The only thing I need is an odbc connection.
I have almost succeed in achieving the needed – there are just one “small” thin left: Every time I start Bentley Map it demands a “project directory”
Here I press “Cancel” and on the next dialog I also press “Cancel”.
Is there any way I can tell Bentley Map that I do not want a project directory. Or can I build a “default” project directory, which I can use to ALL my projects? All my projects use the same workspace, but connect to different odbc connections – and the contents of the databases are different…
I know that my life would be better if I use the Map manager and so on. But I have chosen not to use this for this moment, because I do not know which impact it has on our whole production flow.
If anyone have a suggestions on some good material to Bentley Map administrators – please let me know :-)
Kind regards
Morten
If you are wanting to just use the Map tools, without a XFM project, then use the msgeo user configuration. This will load the Map functionality ( except for placing / editing features). You do not need to edit anything ( config files, etc.)
Then use the Microstation DB connection tool to connect to the database as needed.
Hi Jerry
That is actually almost what I need - but I still want to use the "Project" settings. Because we uses the "projects".pcf to define some settings - for example where the dgn files are, the database name and so on.
So if I could tell BM that it shall run as if there was "no project" - it would be perfect :-)
Kind regard
So can you still define the PCF file in the pull down of the initial screen ? By default BM does not use a PCF file, but in the startup form, there is a field to select the PCF File.
HTH
Jerry
When I start BM I get this dialog:
As you can see I can select projects with no problems. These projects are only defined by a pcf file. They are not BM projects - only Microstation projects.
If I select "No project". BM starts with no errors.
But if I select a project - BM starts with these two "errors":
I just select "cancel" - and then I'm in. And can start working :-)
So it would be nice if BM starts the same way as when I select "No project".
So somewhere, in your pcf file you are attempting to start up the legacy Geographics project interface, which is not needed in Bentley Map. I would review this file and comment the offending lines out and retest.
...check for the following configuration variable definition...
MS_GEOINITCMD = PROJECT OPEN
...and if found comment it out or remove it.
Regards,
Jeff Bielefeld [Bentley]
Hi Jeff
Perfect :-)
My next "problem" is this (I know I'm tweaking):
When I open a dgn file where some objects has RDMBS connections I cannot change those objects.
How can I change this behaivior?
Now, I just open the dgn file in Microstation and do want I want, and then return to BM.
I know I can just connect to a database, but most of the time I do not need the database...
The error is this:
Required startup database connection was cancelled, element with RDMBS properties not valid for tool.
Morten,
When you open design files that had been used with a previous database connection, Bentley Map should be prompting with the "Connect to Database" to establish a connection to the same database. If you choose to cancel and not make a connection, then any elements with database linkages cannot be manipulated. This is done to improve the referential integrity between the MicroStation elements and the linked database rows.
Are you cancelling the "Connect to Database" dialog?
Actually yes - I'm cancelling the "Connect to Database" dialog. The reason is that we do not "use" Bentley Map - we only needs the Bentley Map functions... For example "find fragtments" and so on...
We have our own database that use MS links to connect features to the database.
So we do not use the Bentley Map "database", but our own database. But when we use data that have linkages to a database, we are not allowed to edit them unless we have the database connected. That is a little bit anoying ;-)
So what I basically need is a Microstation with Map functions (just like with v8.5+geographics)...
So if I could tell BMap that it shall not use a database - I think I would be home safe :-)
First the Bentley Map and MicroStation database connections are one in the same. Next you can add the following configuration variable...
MS_GEOXFM_DISALLOW_INFERRED_DBCONNECTION = 1
...to your workspace or ustation.exe startup command line to disable the Bentley Map automatic database connection.