Howto configure Bentley Map?

Re: Howto configure Bentley Map?

Jerry Walter - Bentley — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:22:31 GMT

NP. Glad to help.

Jerry

Re: Howto configure Bentley Map?

Oto — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:17:54 GMT

Thanks

Re: Howto configure Bentley Map?

Jerry Walter - Bentley — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 04:33:42 GMT

You can also start this up by setting the camand line variable

-wdODBC and then you can create a desktop shortcut with this in it. For example :

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Bentley\MapEnterprise V8i\MapEnterprise\mapenterprise.exe" -wsBENTLEY_MAPENTERPRISE -wr"C:\ProgramData\Bentley\MapEnterprise V8i\08.11.09\WorkSpace" -wuCadastre_EastCity -wdODBC

This way you will not need to add this in the MS_GEOINITCMD configuration variable.

Jerry

Re: Howto configure Bentley Map?

Oto — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 03:24:58 GMT

Got it, so if only database connect is needed then standard Microstation database connection can be set up.

Only Jeff advice is slightly wrong because it results in error "database server is not active".

It works only if MS_GEOINITCMD also contains "dbconmgr odbc" key-in.

Re: Howto configure Bentley Map?

Jerry Walter - Bentley — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 01:42:59 GMT

There is no 'project' like in Geographics, in Bentley Map. If you load the XFM workspace, when starting up Bentley Map, then the features, configuration, database,m etc. is available. There is no 'project' to open at that point.

Re: Howto configure Bentley Map?

Oto — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 01:30:28 GMT

Is the "project open" cmd still supprted in SS2 and SS3 Map products? It doesn't seem to work.

Re: Howto configure Bentley Map?

Jeff Bielefeld — Wed, 19 Sep 2012 02:48:50 GMT

Morten,

Using the attached db1.xml schema, could you perform the following:

Create an ODBC DSN named mytown that points to the delivered mytown.mdb database file.
Using the Bentley Geospatial Administrator application, open db1.xml schema and perform "Export" to generate the XFM workspace.
Select and "Run" the "user1" workspace.
Open work.dgn and verify that the MicroStation status bar shows "Database: mytown" indicating a database connection to mytown data source has been created.
Using the Command Manager, place a few "Pole" feature instances.
Perform "File > Save" and "File > Save Settings" to ensure that the work.dgn design file has been saved with mytown database connection information.
Exit Bentley Map session.
Start a new Bentley Map session using the same "db1_user1" user workspace.
Verify that the "Connect to Database" dialog from MicroStation does not appear.

If you observe different behavior (e.g. the "Connect to Database" appears) please let me know as we may need to open a Service Ticket to determine the cause of the unexpected behavior.

Re: Howto configure Bentley Map?

Morten — Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:56:49 GMT

Hi Jeff

Unfortunately it do not work - or I cannot get it to work... If I add a database.xml file to my project - the dialog do not appear.

I generated the database.xml from the Map Administrator.

But the database.xml solution is not good, because then I have to generate XML files for all our projects, - and everytime we changes the database the xml has to be generated again... And yes, we change the database many times...

Kind regards

Morten

Re: Howto configure Bentley Map?

Jeff Bielefeld — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 22:54:16 GMT

Morten,

You should be able to define the following configuration variables (those highlighted) MS_GEODBCONNECT, _USTN_DATABASENAME and MS_GEOINITCMD to automatically perform the database connection and prevent the display of the "Connect to Database" dialog.

Re: Howto configure Bentley Map?

Morten — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:07:25 GMT

I think this is what I need: MS_GEOXFM_DBCONNECTDEF_FILE

But that needs a XML file - can anyone provide me with a samle XML file connecting to a ODBC database?

Kind regards

Morten

Re: Howto configure Bentley Map?

Morten — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 13:57:30 GMT

Hi Jeff

The MS_GEOXFM_DISALLOW_INFERRED_DBCONNECTION = 1 setting is unfortunately not the solution...

Because then we cannot search in the database.

My problem is now that I want to automatically connect to a database that I have specified in my project configuration file (pcf).

Now I do it using a small macro that connects to the database using the db= command. But when we open BM the database connection dialog box appears. If we press cancel on this - we cannot search in the database using the search tool.

So how can I connect to a database using configuration variables?

Kind regards

Morten

Re: Howto configure Bentley Map?

Morten — Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:30:01 GMT

Hi Jeff

Perfect :-)

Now BM acts just like I want - I think :-)

Thank you very much.

Kind regards

Morten

Re: Howto configure Bentley Map?

Jeff Bielefeld — Wed, 18 Jul 2012 21:05:58 GMT

Morten,

First the Bentley Map and MicroStation database connections are one in the same. Next you can add the following configuration variable...

MS_GEOXFM_DISALLOW_INFERRED_DBCONNECTION = 1

...to your workspace or ustation.exe startup command line to disable the Bentley Map automatic database connection.

Re: Howto configure Bentley Map?

Morten — Wed, 18 Jul 2012 20:55:17 GMT

Hi Jeff

Actually yes - I'm cancelling the "Connect to Database" dialog. The reason is that we do not "use" Bentley Map - we only needs the Bentley Map functions... For example "find fragtments" and so on...

We have our own database that use MS links to connect features to the database.

So we do not use the Bentley Map "database", but our own database. But when we use data that have linkages to a database, we are not allowed to edit them unless we have the database connected. That is a little bit anoying ;-)

So what I basically need is a Microstation with Map functions (just like with v8.5+geographics)...

So if I could tell BMap that it shall not use a database - I think I would be home safe :-)

Kind regards

Morten

Re: Howto configure Bentley Map?

Jeff Bielefeld — Wed, 18 Jul 2012 19:52:50 GMT

Morten,

When you open design files that had been used with a previous database connection, Bentley Map should be prompting with the "Connect to Database" to establish a connection to the same database. If you choose to cancel and not make a connection, then any elements with database linkages cannot be manipulated. This is done to improve the referential integrity between the MicroStation elements and the linked database rows.

Are you cancelling the "Connect to Database" dialog?

Re: Howto configure Bentley Map?

Morten — Wed, 18 Jul 2012 18:53:09 GMT

Hi Jeff

Perfect :-)

My next "problem" is this (I know I'm tweaking):

When I open a dgn file where some objects has RDMBS connections I cannot change those objects.

How can I change this behaivior?

Now, I just open the dgn file in Microstation and do want I want, and then return to BM.

I know I can just connect to a database, but most of the time I do not need the database...

The error is this:

Required startup database connection was cancelled, element with RDMBS properties not valid for tool.

Kind regards

Morten

Re: Howto configure Bentley Map?

Jeff Bielefeld — Wed, 18 Jul 2012 18:13:12 GMT

...check for the following configuration variable definition...

MS_GEOINITCMD = PROJECT OPEN

...and if found comment it out or remove it.

Re: Howto configure Bentley Map?

Jerry Walter - Bentley — Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:48:30 GMT

So somewhere, in your pcf file you are attempting to start up the legacy Geographics project interface, which is not needed in Bentley Map. I would review this file and comment the offending lines out and retest.

HTH

Jerry

Re: Howto configure Bentley Map?

Morten — Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:22:27 GMT

Hi Jerry

When I start BM I get this dialog:

As you can see I can select projects with no problems. These projects are only defined by a pcf file. They are not BM projects - only Microstation projects.

If I select "No project". BM starts with no errors.

But if I select a project - BM starts with these two "errors":

I just select "cancel" - and then I'm in. And can start working :-)

So it would be nice if BM starts the same way as when I select "No project".

Kind regards

Morten

Re: Howto configure Bentley Map?

Jerry Walter - Bentley — Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:47:03 GMT

So can you still define the PCF file in the pull down of the initial screen ? By default BM does not use a PCF file, but in the startup form, there is a field to select the PCF File.

HTH

Jerry

Re: Howto configure Bentley Map?

Morten — Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:19:37 GMT

Hi Jerry

That is actually almost what I need - but I still want to use the "Project" settings. Because we uses the "projects".pcf to define some settings - for example where the dgn files are, the database name and so on.

So if I could tell BM that it shall run as if there was "no project" - it would be perfect :-)

Kind regard

Morten

Re: Howto configure Bentley Map?

Jerry Walter - Bentley — Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:17:10 GMT

If you are wanting to just use the Map tools, without a XFM project, then use the msgeo user configuration. This will load the Map functionality ( except for placing / editing features). You do not need to edit anything ( config files, etc.)

Then use the Microstation DB connection tool to connect to the database as needed.