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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://communities.bentley.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>DummyPlate E-modulus of Mohrcoulomb Eref or Eoed</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/products/geotech-analysis/f/forum/247270/dummyplate-e-modulus-of-mohrcoulomb-eref-or-eoed</link><description>Hi 
 
 I want to model a DummyPlate for a final lining. The final lining is modelled as a volume element in the 2D Plaxis. 
 I am wondering if I should use Eoed or Eref for the DummyPlate stiffnes?</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: DummyPlate E-modulus of Mohrcoulomb Eref or Eoed</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/772226?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2023 06:34:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:3455ce15-af2c-46cb-a9df-c815656cd97e</guid><dc:creator>Berk Demir</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Regarding stiffness factor: I commented on the value I saw - 44 GPa seems unreduced to me, just to give you an heads up, but glad that you are aware of that.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Regarding E and Eoed, I am not talking about using different values, I am talking about Plaxis&amp;#39; implementation. If you enter E&amp;#39;, Plaxis will automatically calculate Eoed. If you have the Eoed, Plaxis will calculate the E&amp;#39;. So, whichever you choose, does not matter. The only thing we have to do is entering the correct value to correct place.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Deciding on which one is correct value for (let&amp;#39;s say) concrete, is engineer&amp;#39;s judgement. I personally would go for E&amp;#39;, but one can argue the otherwise.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img style="max-height:240px;max-width:320px;" alt=" " src="/cfs-file/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/343671/Screenshot_2D00_20230705_2D00_1552.gif" data-uw-rm-ima="un" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: DummyPlate E-modulus of Mohrcoulomb Eref or Eoed</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/772211?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2023 04:37:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:d9d82a5a-ce83-49ed-81a2-d885e489c362</guid><dc:creator>Manuel Kraehenbuehl</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Demir&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks. Of course I reduced the stiffness by factor like 1E6.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#39;t agree that the engineer can just choose whichever he likes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Probably it depends on the case, if the E or Eoed is the right E-Modulus.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But in my case: If I assume, that plaxis uses for the calculation of the deformations more or less E instead of Eoed (because the stress state is more dominated by E instead of Eoed), then I should use E for the dummy Plate. In the other way, like you mentioned I can chose Eoed, the structural forces by the dummy plate would be 10% to low.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: DummyPlate E-modulus of Mohrcoulomb Eref or Eoed</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/772178?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2023 20:01:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:64f06333-1d34-49a0-8f4f-bdb36e8c4c41</guid><dc:creator>Berk Demir</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Whichever you like!  &amp;nbsp; Just don&amp;#39;t forget to divide the E to a high value like 1E6, and multiplying the resulting force with the same value. Right now, it seems like you have used the actual E, not the dummy E. Read here:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://communities.bentley.com/products/geotech-analysis/w/wiki/52506/composite-liner-approach-in-plaxis-2d"&gt;communities.bentley.com/.../composite-liner-approach-in-plaxis-2d&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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