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Flood Modelling using SewerGEMS

I am trying to build a city drainage network and I want to understand the extent of flooding in the problematic areas. How can I do flood modelling using sewerGEMS. Also, if it is not possible in sewerGEMS, is there any other Bentley product that can hep me. I need to the extent of flooding, depth of flooding and the time it takes to clear that out.

Thanks and Regards

Manish

  • Hello Manish,

    We may need a few more details related to what you are trying to model. SewerGEMS is able to model runoff from catchments, which would be diverted to structures for a sewer or combined storm-sewer system. Diverse land types can be modeled as catchments, including paved areas. In addition, ponding above elements, such as manholes, can be modeled in SewerGEMS as well. This ponding assumes that the overflow remains near the structure and will re-enter the system once the system is no longer surcharged. 

    If this is not what you are trying to model, I would refer you to your account manager, who may be able to further assist you in helping to identify a product that may be better suited for your purposes. If you are unsure of who your account manager is, please send me a private message with your company name and email address and I will get you in touch with someone.

    Regards,

    Scott

  • Hi Scott,

    What I am looking for is to do runoff routing rather than assigning the runoff from a catchment as a point load to a catch basin/ manhole.

    Regarding flooding, in need to show in plan (layout) the extent and depth of flooding (water logging) at any particular time step.

    I have also send you a private message in this regard.

    Regards
    Manish
  • Manish,

    SewerGEMS has the ability to model overflow from manholes and catchments, which can be routed to gutters or channels. You also have the ability to model surface storage, where overflow is essentially constrained within a pond above the manhole/catchbasin rim.

    What you describe appears to go beyond the current scope of what SewerGEMS can do. You may want to look into Bentley MX Drainage.


    Regards,

    Jesse Dringoli
    Technical Support Manager, OpenFlows
    Bentley Communities Site Administrator
    Bentley Systems, Inc.

  • As a follow up regarding my comment on MX Drainage, there are some important things to keep in mind. First, it is a separate product and would require proper training to be able to use it.

    Second, its flooding algorithm is peak flow only, not time variant. So, its hydraulics and hydrology calculations are comparable to our StormCAD product and therefore may not be appropriate for city-wide scale.


    Regards,

    Jesse Dringoli
    Technical Support Manager, OpenFlows
    Bentley Communities Site Administrator
    Bentley Systems, Inc.

  • Thanks Scott and Jesse for prompt response.

    It seems odd that SewerGEMS doesn't have this capability whereas Infoworks CS (even the old version) have it.
    I am trying to recreate an existing Infoworks storm water model in SewerGEMS and I am facing so many limitations in terms of functionality. We have an ELS of Bentley and therefore it is a software of choice but it is not working out well.

    With the limitations you mentioned in your followup message, I don't think even MX Drainage will be able to cater to our design needs.

    Another problem that I am facing is with model builder. The model builder in SewerGEMS by default creates circular conduits, whereas I need to create rectangular conduits for my project, any suggestions?

    Also, SewerGEMS is unable to read the SWMM v5 model that is being exported by Infoworks CS, any thoughts?

    Best Regards
    Manish