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CivilStorm and Geopak/Inroads compatibility

ajs
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We are looking into whether we should use CivilStorm/StormCAD instead of Geopak Drainage, however I have a few questions that hopefully somebody can answer.

  1. It appears they (CS/SC) are both integrated with Microstation. Does this mean you can draw your drainage areas with Microstation tools and select the closed shapes to represent your drainage areas? Or do you have to draw your own catchment area that isn't linked to a MS element?
    1. If you modify the MS element, do they areas update?
  2. Do they read Geopak/Inroads horizontal and vertical alignment information for placement?
  3. Can they read the new OpenRoads alignments and profiles?
  4. Can you create/store your own agency Inlets as Cells with the hydraulic information such as gutter depression depth and have it automatically place the cells in plan view?
  5. Do they draw the profiles for you into Microstation and automatically label the elements like Geopak Drainage?

It looks like CS and SC are both powerful, I'm just concerned with the "interoperability" with Microstation and it functioning how Geopak Drainage works.

 

Thanks in advanced.

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    Hello,

    We are continually working on the integration between CivilStorm/StormCAD and the Bentley civil products (including GEOPAK). However, for now, I expect that CivilStorm or StormCAD by themselves (even running on top of MicroStation) won't fit well into your existing drawing production workflows.

    Currently I recommend that you lay your drainage elements out in plan view using GEOPAK drainage, then import the GEOPAK drainage network into CivilStorm or StormCAD for further analysis. Then, once you are done with the analysis, you can export the network back to GEOPAK drainage for drawing production.

    The above workflow will change with an upcoming release which properly merges the Bentley Civil and CivilStorm/StormCAD functionality. We have referred to this release as 'Subsurface Utilities Design and Analysis' in some recent conference presentations. Please let us know if you'd like more info about this.

    Regards,

    Mal

        

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    Ok. Thanks for the response. We'll likely just stick with Geopak Drainage unless we need something specific. My recommendation is make the functionality similar in that we can place custom inlets, have it draw actual pipe sizes and thicknesses and not just centerlines, and integrate with geopak/inroads/openroads for alignment information and superelevations,etc. etc.

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    AJS:

    If you are interested in seeing the Subsurface Utilities Desing and Analysis tools then let me know (robert.garrett@bentley.com).  I will have be able to demonstrate the functionality within a few weeks and give you a sense of where we are heading.  As you and Mal have already discussed, since you have GEOPAK Drainage working for you, I agree that it is probably best to stay with it for a few more months and then make a transition to SUDA.  This effectively provides you with the advantages of StormCAD/CivilStorm in a way which is tightly integrated with Microstation and the OpenRoads tools.

    Robert Garrett
    Senior Product Engineer
    Bentley Systems Inc.



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