Ref: https://communities.bentley.com/products/hydraulics___hydrology/f/haestad-hydraulics-and-hydrology-forum/176423/vfd-pump
Its VSD , I entered all the data but still have problems with pumps. Warning calculation is like there is no enough head to deliver the flow and its exceeds the max operating point for the pump curve!!! what his meaning by pump curve!!!!!! besides the values of the Hydraulic grade are MINUS Values What could be the problem here?
A.S.,
It looks like the model is unbalanced - note the "Network Unbalanced" message in the list of User Notifications. This means that the program was not able to converge on a balanced solution within the maximum number of trials set in the calculation options. When the network is unbalanced, the results cannot be trusted and you'll often see strange results.
There are a number of reasons why the network may be unbalanced. Try clicking the timestep in the Calculation Summary (which appears after computing the model) and look at the tabs at the bottom for clues, especially "intra-trial status detaails".
If this started happening after setting up a VSP, closely examine the VSP settings, and how the VSP might interact with the hydraulics of the rest of the model.
You can find more troubleshooting information here: Troubleshooting the Network Unbalanced or Cannot solve network hydraulic equations user notification
If this does not help, please provide a copy of the model for review: Sharing Hydraulic Model Files on the OpenFlows Forum
Regards,
Jesse DringoliTechnical Support Manager, OpenFlowsBentley Communities Site AdministratorBentley Systems, Inc.
project watercad final update 4-10.wtgAttached model still not knowing how to solve it
Hello A.S.,
To open this model, we would also need the .wtg.sqlite file, which is a database file without which model cannot be opened.
Please upload the .wtg.sqlite file as well.
Sushma Choure
Bentley Technical Suppport
https://communities.bentley.com/cfs-file/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/5925/_2300_3.rar
sorry about the first file i didn't notice ... kindly find the attached file
Since this is a separate issue from the original post, I have split this to a new thread.
I see that you are using an older version, 10.00.00.50. I have tried running the model in that version as well as the latest version (10.02.00.43), and it immediately fails with "cannot solve network hydraulic equations". This is different from the issue reported in your screenshot from March 28th, so I assume you have made some changes to the model since then, and this "cannot solve..." issue is what you are also now currently seeing.
I see that you have configured the Motor tab of the pump definition for pumps 1-8 to be variable speed drive, but the "is variable speed pump?" option in the pump properties is set to false for all pumps. This means that the pump will either have a speed of zero when off, or full speed when on (and the initial relative speed factor is set to 1.0, meaning full speed). If you meant to configure the pumps to be VSPs which change speed to maintain a target head or flow, you'll need to configure that in the pump properties.
The "cannot solve..." error seems to be caused by two main issues:
Answer Verified By: Sushma Choure