SS4 - stopping support question

As others have said, starting January 1 any SS4 (and earlier) license will have to be node-locked. 

From what I have been told at your next Bentley contract renewal after January 1, you will be charged extra for any node-locked licenses you are still using.

WHAT...?

Haven't we already paid for the software (and the license to run it)? Why are we getting charged again for software already purchased?

Thanks for the feedback Mary.  I will go back through it all in more depth but a few comments now.

 ” I'm honestly not sure who this document is developed for”

 The first line should answer that question.  We continue to hear from users that say either, there is too much information or there is not enough information.  This article was to address those that don’t need much help, users who are computer savvy.  How could I make that clearer in the first line ??

 Step 1 is the registration process.

Step 2 is the CC install password process

Step 3 is the password

Step 4 is the software

 If any of those steps are done by someone else, I would think someone with computer skills would know to exclude them, but I guess I am wrong there??

*I just made a few changes, please see if they help.

As far as the more detailed instructions, I thought that I had included the Terminology page that was created.  I’ll add that in as I completely agree, if someone doesn’t understand the lingo than nothing else will make any sense.

Besides the couple examples of terms you are not clear on, are there any others?  I’d be happy to compare with what I have and add any that are needed.

Thank you

I logged and ST about this and received the following regarding fees:

• MicroStation V8i (SELECTseries 10) uses Subscription Entitlement Services licensing, and is not affected.
• Pre-MicroStation V8i (SELECTseries 10) versions would need to be machine locked (no longer a floating license).
• No additional fees for machine locked Pre-MicroStation V8i (SELECTseries 10) versions.

But the FAQ noted that:

What is a “machine-based license”?
Pooled licenses provide the ability to cover a number of machines that are concurrently in use. The machine-based license
environment eliminates license pooling, shifting to a single license that is specifcally assigned to one designated machine.
Unless applications are upgraded to versions with SES, administrators will need to register their desired machines to ensure
they are covered by a machine-based license.

So we can run a SES version and a node locked version at the same time with no additional costs but what it doesn't say is whether running CE and SS10 at the same time is one licence usage or two.

Why does it have to be so confusing"!!

Exactly! It’s bad enough to have to have to migrate and worry about licensing issues.

Glenn cc edition is a big change. It’s more then just the time consuming ribbon. I avoid ribbons in any software when possible. It means memorizing shortcuts or navigating through the ribbon or customizing again. The change from the project based format to workspace  is a bit confusing. I like having access to all menus in one menu like the old menu bar. Having to switch to the file menu to get to settings is annoying. Microstation used to brag about less mouse clicks compared to Autocad. Now that’s not the case. I get the feeling Microstation is trying to mimic Autocad. 

With so many changes I think Bentley should provide more videos that are FREE to long time users.

Hello,

Is the document you and MaryB referring to the "SELECTserver Deprecation" or something else?  If it is something different could you please share it?

Thank you and take care, 

Hello,

Is the document you and MaryB referring to the "SELECTserver Deprecation" or something else?  If it is something different could you please share it?

Thank you and take care, 

Hi,

The links we are talking about are different, here they are: 

QuickStart Guide:

https://communities.bentley.com/products/licensing/w/licensing__wiki/50431/subscription-entitlement-service-ses-quickstart-guide

In-depth Guide:

https://communities.bentley.com/products/licensing/w/licensing__wiki/48337/understanding-the-subscription-entitlement-service-ses-workflow-options

Thanks,

Glenn

Grot I love your profile picture

It from the Grot character of Metropolis, thanks

Glenn Fernandes said:

In-depth Guide:

https://communities.bentley.com/products/licensing/w/licensing__wiki/48337/understanding-the-subscription-entitlement-service-ses-workflow-options

Perhaps I'm being cynical but this statement from the wiki noted above is just allows Bentley to keep on claiming over usages and sending out invoices:

Just as with SELECTserver activation keys, Bentley remains committed to allowing on-demand access to applications regardless of the available entitlements when using SES.

Also whats a Term license, as noted in the same wiki?