I've just had a very lengthy email from Bentley regarding the above. To be honest I'm not sure that I understand most of it and would be grateful if someone could explain. How is this likely to effcet our company which has 7 MicroStation licences and one MXSite on SELECT and a couple of non SELECT MicroStation licences.
What if we don't want to opt in to SELECT OPen Access, as the chances of use buying additional licences are slim?
Why do individuals have to be identified? I have access to SELECT and can download and install updates to all our users as required.
What project level information do you require and why?
The use of 'Quarterly Term LIcensing' will alienate the smaller companies especially if they start getting invoices for over usage.
Any help with the above would be appreciated.
As we continue to expand the Be Communities support forums, this is definitely the appropriate place to discuss SELECT Open Access.
With the introduction of SELECT Open Access and our continuing commitment to User Satisfaction,additional experts are now monitoring the SELECTserver and Product Activation support forum (this forum). We are here and ready to address your questions regarding SELECT Open Access.
In the near future, additional documentation will be made available within the Wiki section of this Community to further expand upon this new and exciting SELECT Program.
Feel free to ask your questions, we will respond individually as soon as possible!
Unknown said:As we continue to expand the Be Communities support forums, this is definitely the appropriate place to discuss SELECT Open Access. With the introduction of SELECT Open Access and our continuing commitment to User Satisfaction,additional experts are now monitoring the SELECTserver and Product Activation support forum (this forum). We are here and ready to address your questions regarding SELECT Open Access. In the near future, additional documentation will be made available within the Wiki section of this Community to further expand upon this new and exciting SELECT Program. Feel free to ask your questions, we will respond individually as soon as possible!
Unknown said: We are also taking software under-utilization into consideration
Elisabeth, please expand on this. Thank you.
stuartw said: Another question that came out of my conversation with my Accounts Manager. There io lots of talk about over usage but what about under usage of licence. We have 7no. MicroStation licences but over the last 3 months our average use was 4no, although we did have some over usage as well. Hopefully Bentley will take this into account when working out usage and billing.
Another question that came out of my conversation with my Accounts Manager. There io lots of talk about over usage but what about under usage of licence. We have 7no. MicroStation licences but over the last 3 months our average use was 4no, although we did have some over usage as well.
Hopefully Bentley will take this into account when working out usage and billing.
Elisabeth Please could you confirm Bentleys position on under usage of licences. It obviously wouldn't be fair to penalisae us for the few times we are over when most of the time we are well under or licence allocation.
It's not only small organizations that worry.
stuartw outlined the real purpose: Bentley sets up their own money printer. They define what overusage is. They don't give us a licence limiter. They force us into contracts to open this "subscription model". They wrapped it into nice paper of "advantages" that we totally need.
I'm ready to fight, you know ;) And I'm NOT alone >:-)
Bigean
This is the response from my Account Manager to the definition of under usage:
We consider the pooled use, the number of unique machines that access a license during 1 hour. Highest quarterly peak determines the usage. The peak hour of the quarter counts as usage for that product.
In order for a product to receive a Quarterly term license invoice, their usage must exceed their owned covered quantity by 4 or more times during the quarter and the fifth is aggregate use of portfolio. Aggregate use of portfolio is a check put in place to avoid invoicing a user whom may be over using a single product but in aggregate across all of their products, they are severe net under users.
To determine the aggregate value of the portfolio we first multiply both the covered quantities and the used quantities of products by the SELECT list price. This allows us to compare the approximate SELECT values of both covered and used quantities. Then we divide the Used SELECT value by the Covered SELECT value. If this ratio is greater than 75% then this usage is considered to be billed on SELECT Open Access terms and an invoice will be sent only for those products that were overused.
If the account fails and the ratio is under 75% threshold and user will not receive an invoice for the product that he is overusing.
I don't understand some of the terminology so can't actually work out what it means! What are 'covered' licences?
Unknown said: It's not only small organizations that worry. stuartw outlined the real purpose: Bentley sets up their own money printer. They define what overusage is. They don't give us a licence limiter. They force us into contracts to open this "subscription model". They wrapped it into nice paper of "advantages" that we totally need. I'm ready to fight, you know ;) And I'm NOT alone >:-)
Why is there not more discussion about this on this site? I,m guessing that most members are just users and therefore don'y have to worry about costs as that is something sorted out by others.