MicroStation 08.11.09.357 Why does saving DWG to DGN move dim text outside dim lines

RE: MicroStation 08.11.09.357 Why does saving DWG to DGN move dim text outside dim lines

Lorys — Sun, 07 Feb 2016 08:53:52 GMT

[quote user="rpsmith"]Lorys,

Good point, maybe I'm chasing the wrong issue. It's not a dimension style but a missing font instead.
Message center says "Replaced missing SHX font [dgn001] with [simplex.bigfont]".
I don't have font "dgn001" where is a good website to get fonts?

Tried opening a empty DGN and Reference Attaching DWG. Looked good. Did Ref Merge and the dimension jumped out.
I'm not sure how I would know if Microstation exports fonts... how would I find out?

David,
I thought I am in the FileFormats forum as the header at the top says that.

Thanks!

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ok now we are getting some where either contact the originators and ask for their fonts for acad ( shx) as the font you mentioned is not an acad font I recognise or do trial and error in msnt substituting the font for a more conventional acad font like the iso fonts , In one project I did last year I had to locate iso3098b was a very old early acad font and I had to add it to acad fonts folder, took me ages to find it on the web as it was very old..... see picture

Also in trial and error use all the non True Types iso acad fonts you have first... they all have different width spacing and I have found you can keep changing font until you get the best fit ... never perfect unless you have the real same font they used...

RE: MicroStation 08.11.09.357 Why does saving DWG to DGN move dim text outside dim lines

George A. Martin — Thu, 04 Feb 2016 20:32:01 GMT

Is anyone seeing the Stacked dimension in AutoCAD? (as in Top half of initial screenshot). I opened the dimExampledwg file in AC 2014 and it looked as it does in MicroStation. A Single line of text.
I am not able to open it using AC2000, Could that be the difference?

When I attached it as a Reference it said it was a A2007 release in the Attach dialog just above the Thumbnail image area, but still no difference One string of text (No Stacked Text).

RE: MicroStation 08.11.09.357 Why does saving DWG to DGN move dim text outside dim lines

DavidG — Thu, 04 Feb 2016 15:45:47 GMT

[quote user="rpsmith"]David,
I thought I am in the FileFormats forum as the header at the top says that.
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I see that now and apologize, I clicked on the notification button and it moved me from the other forum to here without me realizing it.

RE: MicroStation 08.11.09.357 Why does saving DWG to DGN move dim text outside dim lines

rpsmith — Thu, 04 Feb 2016 14:38:09 GMT

Lorys,

Good point, maybe I'm chasing the wrong issue. It's not a dimension style but a missing font instead.
Message center says "Replaced missing SHX font [dgn001] with [simplex.bigfont]".
I don't have font "dgn001" where is a good website to get fonts?

Tried opening a empty DGN and Reference Attaching DWG. Looked good. Did Ref Merge and the dimension jumped out.
I'm not sure how I would know if Microstation exports fonts... how would I find out?

David,
I thought I am in the FileFormats forum as the header at the top says that.

Thanks!

RE: MicroStation 08.11.09.357 Why does saving DWG to DGN move dim text outside dim lines

Lorys — Thu, 04 Feb 2016 10:09:35 GMT

[quote user="rpsmith"]Thanks Lorys.
We have about 200 DWG files coming in each month - we need to save to DGN without changing the dimensions.
Once a solution is found, we can batch convert.

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just out of curiosity did you try the merge to see if it worked?

FY I during convert are you letting mstn export any non supported acad fonts into the same folder the DGNs out put live in..., you may needed to move those to the font rsc folder later to view the dgns...clutching at straws here but it might lead to something...

RE: MicroStation 08.11.09.357 Why does saving DWG to DGN move dim text outside dim lines

Lorys — Thu, 04 Feb 2016 10:03:25 GMT

try and open the dwg with microstation , look at the message centre, you may have a font substitution issue,

If you have access to autocad or true view try and find out what the font name is .. then it might just be a case of the right font... this has happened to me ta client used and old isoXXXB font and microstation didnt have it... but I found a closer match eventually on the net and and it worked better text didnt spill out over the title block...

Also the dims outside doesnt that usually mean the text wont fit inside the dim leaders but it did in acad so it would appear the text using fonts available to mstn must be fatter and take up more room...

RE: MicroStation 08.11.09.357 Why does saving DWG to DGN move dim text outside dim lines

DavidG — Wed, 03 Feb 2016 01:08:03 GMT

Yes I have seen it. Not everything in DWG styles its 100% compatible with DGN styles. Again I would suggest you post your questions in the File Formats forum because thats where the people who actually do the programing for DWG are.

RE: MicroStation 08.11.09.357 Why does saving DWG to DGN move dim text outside dim lines

rpsmith — Tue, 02 Feb 2016 20:59:27 GMT

I'm not sure what would cause this, has anybody else had this happen when a DWG gets saved to DGN?

RE: MicroStation 08.11.09.357 Why does saving DWG to DGN move dim text outside dim lines

rpsmith — Tue, 02 Feb 2016 12:45:38 GMT

Thanks Lorys.
We have about 200 DWG files coming in each month - we need to save to DGN without changing the dimensions.
Once a solution is found, we can batch convert.

RE: MicroStation 08.11.09.357 Why does saving DWG to DGN move dim text outside dim lines

Lorys — Tue, 02 Feb 2016 07:18:22 GMT

[quote user="rpsmith"]

(Please visit the site to view this file)I am unable to provide the whole file as it contains sensitive data. However, I can provide the part of the dimension in a Dgn.

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Why not just ref attach the DWG into DGN .. see what it look like if upon merging the DWG file causes a problem... then undo and leave it ref attached and use level manager to change colours to suit msnt you can use Real colours if you cant match iva colour numbers ...this usually works for me....

RE: MicroStation 08.11.09.357 Why does saving DWG to DGN move dim text outside dim lines

rpsmith — Mon, 01 Feb 2016 20:57:19 GMT

communities.bentley.com/.../dimExample.dwgI am unable to provide the whole file as it contains sensitive data. However, I can provide the part of the dimension in a Dgn.

RE: MicroStation 08.11.09.357 Why does saving DWG to DGN move dim text outside dim lines

George A. Martin — Mon, 01 Feb 2016 20:40:07 GMT

Any chance of you posting a small sample so we can investigate. Without the test sample we are really guessing. To attach samples just go to the Advanced Reply Editor. You can zip both the sample Dgn and DWG files. ACAD 2000 is pretty old.

RE: MicroStation 08.11.09.357 Why does saving DWG to DGN move dim text outside dim lines

rpsmith — Mon, 01 Feb 2016 20:01:38 GMT

George,

Dwg is autocad 2000, MSta is 08.11.09.357

The text size is the same, my screen captures are not same scale. it looked correct until I SaveAs DGN then it jumped outside of the dim lines.

communities.bentley.com/.../dimonly.dgn

RE: MicroStation 08.11.09.357 Why does saving DWG to DGN move dim text outside dim lines

rpsmith — Mon, 01 Feb 2016 19:53:28 GMT

Thanks George, I re-posted in the File Formats forum.

RE: MicroStation 08.11.09.357 Why does saving DWG to DGN move dim text outside dim lines

George A. Martin — Mon, 01 Feb 2016 19:44:40 GMT

I saw the picture in the original post and it looked like the text size is larger for one, which inferres a Text Style difference. Text may be set to automatically reposition (FIT) the text between arrowheads. You need to attach a sample file that shows the issue. Please include the M-Sta version you are using and what ver of ACAD file you are working with for anyone to help.

RE: MicroStation 08.11.09.357 Why does saving DWG to DGN move dim text outside dim lines

DavidG — Mon, 01 Feb 2016 19:26:24 GMT

I suggest you repost this in the File Formats forum

communities.bentley.com/.../19567

You are much more likely to get your answers there.

RE: MicroStation 08.11.09.357 Why does saving DWG to DGN move dim text outside dim lines

rpsmith — Mon, 01 Feb 2016 18:27:45 GMT

my screenshots didn't make it into my post - attached is the Word doc showing the issue.communities.bentley.com/.../DWGtoDgnissue.docx