Random Elements Become Unselectable

RE: Random Elements Become Unselectable

Lorys — Thu, 30 Oct 2014 09:14:14 GMT

just a shot in the dark try going to user preferences and turn off antialiasing for both tick boxes , restart and see if the same element same file give you same behaviour...

I used to get this with zoom in out object disappear and reappear... turned of antialiasing and doesn't happen any more with my graphics card...

might work got nothing to loose...especially if you don't use that feature... you can always put it back they way it was if no effect...

RE: Random Elements Become Unselectable

Andrew Bell — Thu, 30 Oct 2014 00:49:35 GMT

The issue you are describing does actually sound like a graphics display issue which could be related to the version of driver being used. I would suggest having a read through the following Wiki which may assist with troubleshooting any problem you are encountering.

http://communities.bentley.com/products/microstation/w/microstation__wiki/13543.troubleshooting-graphics-display-issues

If you are a little confused with the versions of driver on your system this Wiki may assist but you might also like to contact the manufacturer or your company's IT professional.

The following Nvidia driver download page should provide you with a reasonably easy method of locating the correct, latest driver for your Quadro K600 graphics card. This should also show the extra information you require regarding the version numbers etc.

http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us

I hope this information is of assistance.

RE: Random Elements Become Unselectable

kcaitch — Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:01:12 GMT

We do have Geopak installed on some users' machines, but not all. Everyone would be using the same version of MS regardless though. I believe all of the graphics cards are the same (same model computers for everyone). NVIDIA Quadro K600 with driver version 9.18.13.3182. I went to NVIDIA's website and they have driver versions with a number like 265.70. Since I don't know much about this side of things, I'm lost. Should I use the 265.70 driver?

Thanks for the help.

RE: Random Elements Become Unselectable

kcaitch — Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:51:52 GMT

The next time it happens in a file, I can post it for review. Since it happens periodically with different files, I can't say for sure which one it has happened in. I will wait till I know for sure.

RE: Random Elements Become Unselectable

Jan Šlegr — Wed, 29 Oct 2014 08:15:02 GMT

Hi,

I have a question about the build you use. The last officialy released version of MicroStation is 08.11.09.459. The build 08.11.09.578 you mentioned was not released as an official build, but only as a prerequisite for a chosen applications (Descartes and civil products). Does it mean you use MicroStation with such application?

My another question is about your graphic card and driver. What card do you use and did you upgrade the driver recently?

With regards,

Jan

RE: Random Elements Become Unselectable

mwlong — Tue, 28 Oct 2014 21:28:09 GMT

Are you able to post a sample of the file see others can evaluate it to look for problems?

RE: Random Elements Become Unselectable

kcaitch — Tue, 28 Oct 2014 19:38:10 GMT

Not a bad thought, but we rarely use 3D files and the files in question are 2D. I can't see any correlation between the files. Different projects, different seed files, etc.

RE: Random Elements Become Unselectable

mwlong — Tue, 28 Oct 2014 18:48:01 GMT

It seems to me you are working in a 3d file. Your Active Depth may be different than your View Depth so essentially when you are moving an element the data point is actually a Z coordinate higher than what you can see. When you zoom extents you can then see the element. You may be able to select it using Power Selector and crossing mode rather than being able to actually just click on it to select it. That's because your cursor is at a different elevation. If you do not need to be in 3d export the file to 2d and that should fix your problem. Otherwise you need to become familiar with changing Z depths and view depths. There may also be front and back clipping planes affecting this. Can you give more detail about the file?