Is the there a way of getting a list of reference files that are attached to a given design file without loading the deign files in MicroStation?
You could probably produce a VB application that could be run outside of MicroStation but what you could also have a look at are other applications out there that may be able to perform the operation you are requesting.
RegardsAndrew BellTechnical SupportBentley Systems
Bentley already give you one in the demo workspaces search via windows explorer for refinfo.bas
I also have acquired a few vbas like this here is one I found don't remember where I got it ...but works very well straight to excel list...
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Jon Summers said:Can you read an Excel workbook without opening Excel? No.
Do you mean to say that you can't open an XML file without an XML-reading browser? Because you can open it in a text editor. And you can open an Excel file (or any file) without Excel (or any source program) if the file is saved in an open or at least well documented format.
And exactly that is what the original poster is asking. Of course we do know the answer, but you're answering it in a dishonest, uncritical way.
Derek Schmidt said:Do you mean to say that you can't open an XML file without an XML-reading browser?
This post is at least six years old. Nobody, until you, mentioned XML.
Derek Schmidt said: that is what the original poster is asking
The OP asked about listing reference files without loading them into MicroStation. MicroStation's file format is not published. Your analogy with Excel doesn't work with MicroStation.
Derek Schmidt said:we do know the answer ...
So what is your answer to the OP's question?
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Jon Summers said:Nobody, until you, mentioned XML.
And until you, nobody had mentioned Excel in the context of reading the file, but here we are.
Jon Summers said:So what is your answer to the OP's question?
That you can't get a list of reference files from the file without opening it in MicroStation, as you concluded. It's just that the way you established your answer was a little dishonest.
Derek Schmidt said:the way you established your answer was a little dishonest
Jon Summers said:You have to open a file in order to read its contents
What part of that statement do you find dishonest?
Derek Schmidt said:You can't get a list of reference files from the file without opening it in MicroStation
Good answer — if a little late!
Jon Summers said:What part of that statement do you find dishonest?
Your original remarks at https://communities.bentley.com/products/microstation/f/microstation-forum/102363/is-the-there-a-way-of-getting-a-list-of-reference-files-that-are-attached-to-a-given-design-file-without-loading-the-deign-files-in-microstation/305179#305179 strongly implied the original poster was unreasonable to wonder if a file's reference list could be accessed by in any software other than the originating software package.
That's gaslighting as it undermines the perception of self-reasonableness, and gaslighting is dishonest.
It shouldn't surprise anyone that parts of files can be opened in any one of many software products, and it's not fair to tell someone that they're insane for asking, but that's what you did.
Jon Summers said:You can't get a list of reference files from the file without opening it in MicroStation
Good answer — if a little late!
You can't get a list of reference files from the file without opening it in MicroStation
It's the correct answer, however it's arrived at.
But there is also DGN preview handler which works without Microstation. Also maybe DGN indexer could be useful.