section callout in SS3

I am currently using V8i SS3 and am looking to draw sections using the section callout tool.  Having clicked on the tool the 'place section callout' dialogue opens.  When selecting 'drawing seed' only 'none' appears in the dropdown box instead of a list of options.  Is there a setting in my configuration that's wrong?  How do I retrieve the list of seed files in the 'drawing seed' drop down list?

Is there an idiots guide to creating custom callout symbols, using dgnlibs and seed files?

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  • Hello, 

    There is a standard drawing seed file delivered with MicroStation called DrawingSeed.dgnlib. This should be available in the Workspace System folder, the typical path would be.....C:\ProgramData\Bentley\MicroStation V8i (SELECTseries)\WorkSpace\System\dgnlib\  and typically pointed to by the MS_DGNLIBLIST variable. There is a blog (which includes a short video) about this area: 

    Drawing seeds in dgn libraries


    Regards,



  • Thanks for the reply Conor,

    I am aware of the DrawingSeed.dgnlib and its location.  I have read the blog you refer to and seen the video, neither explain the lack of drawing seed options in the 'place section callout' dialogue that I am experiencing or how to retrieve them.  Also, I cannot find any step by step guide tying together issues like how to customize section callouts, the DrawingSeed.dgnlib, dynamic views and other related items.  I have looked at the diagram in help>drawing composition>dynamic views and although this is of some limited use it goes nowhere near far enough in explaining, using clear examples on issues on this topic.  I did however find this yesterday http://www.nclug.com/uploads/2/8/0/0/2800961/ms3wk4_optimizing_drawing_composition_workflows_-_steve_rick.pdf  but have not read it fully yet.  This article refers to a 'LEARN2013' project that I'm assuming was provided by Bentley for users to edit during a coference or webinar.  Is this 'LEARN2013' file available from Bentley?  It could be a great help in explaing issues in this area.

    Regards

    Gary

  • Strange that the 'Create Drawing' option can be ticked. If you proceed and place a section as an example, the Create Drawing dialog should pop up, does it give a file (dgnlib) name for either of the Seed Model fields in this dialog?  In the 'create drawing model' section of the dialogue the seed model is 'ModelSeed.dgn. Drawing'.  In the 'create sheet model' section of the dialogue the seed model is 'ModelSeed.dgn. Sheet'.

    Is the MS_DRAWINGSEED_LIBLIST variable set up to point directly to the files or just to the folders?

    The entry for MS_DRAWINGSEED_LIBLIST is C:\ProgramData\Bentley\MicroStation V8i (SELECTseries)\WorkSpace\PHGBGR\Standards\dgnlib;C:\ProgramData\Bentley\MicroStation V8i (SELECTseries)\WorkSpace\System\dgnlib

    Thanks again Conor.

  • Conor,
    After posting my last reply, I tweaked the MS_DRAWINGSEED_LIBLIST entry to point directly to DrawingSeed.dgnlib and then opened DrawingSeed.dgnlib, placed a section callout and the list of drawing seeds has now appeared. Thanks again for your help.

    Regards

    Gary
  • Hi Gary,

    I found that the list would only work with the _USTN_SYSTEMDGNLIBLIST variable. As a result I have put the line:

    _USTN_SYSTEMDGNLIBLIST > $(MS_DRAWINGSEED_LIBLIST)

    in my configuration file. This is done by default with AECOsim but not with MicroStation

    HTH,
    Mick
  • Thanks for that Mick. I cant see the _USTN_SYSTEMDGNLIBLIST in my configuration. I've managed to get it to work by setting MS_DRAWINGSEED_LIBLIST to point directly to the DrawingSeed.dgnlib as in my reply to Conor.

    Thanks

    Regards

    Gary
  • Glad to see it worked for you. _USTN_SYSTEMDGNLIBLIST is a system variable (they start with _) and are usually hidden to users.

    As a background we noticed that it would only list the drawing seeds that were placed in the System dgnlib folder, but when I included the MS_DRAWINGSEED_LIBLIST in the system dgnlibs (_USTN_SYSTEMDGNLIBLIST ) they would appear no matter where they were located.
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