Where do we set the default settings for tools?

I find very difficult to set the defaut settings for tools. 

Sometimes it is in dgnlib, sometimes in seed files, sometimes with configuration variables,... 

And sometimes i don't know where. For example the Drop Element tool: i would like Line strings/Shapes to be ticked - on all my networkers machines. Where is stored this settings ?

Could you give us an overview of these defaut settings ?

thanks,

Xtov

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  • Here is a link to an explanation of how to get key-ins to change tool settings: http://communities.bentley.com/communities/other_communities/askinga/w/askinga/how-to-extract-keyins-for-the-tool-settings-in-microstation-v8i

    What you do is open the key-in browser, then activate the command (like drop element). Before you do anything else, type "set item toolsettings" into the key-in browser. The various options will appear in the fourth column. Find the option for the toggle you want to set, and add =1 to set it (=0 unchecks the toggle).

    You have to go to your dgnlib and use Customize to modify the tool key-ins. Copy the tool from the Application Tools (which can't be modified) to User tools. Then select the tool and edit the key-in line in the Command Data window.

    I used this method to do exactly what you are asking for. I figured out the toolsettings key-ins to set the line strings/shapes and dimensions toggles on in drop element. This is my key-in: drop element;set item toolsettings stringstoggle=1;set item toolsettings dimensionstoggle=1.

    For settings with more than 1 option, 0 sets it to the first option on the list, 1 sets it to the second, 2 the third, and so forth.

    Here is another example. I want the place circle tool set to method=center, with the radius option checked. The key-in is:
    place circle icon;set item toolsettings placecirclemode=0;set item toolsettings radiustoggle=1;set item toolsettings showasradius=1

    Hope this helps. I've modified the settings for a number of tools this way.
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  • Here is a link to an explanation of how to get key-ins to change tool settings: http://communities.bentley.com/communities/other_communities/askinga/w/askinga/how-to-extract-keyins-for-the-tool-settings-in-microstation-v8i

    What you do is open the key-in browser, then activate the command (like drop element). Before you do anything else, type "set item toolsettings" into the key-in browser. The various options will appear in the fourth column. Find the option for the toggle you want to set, and add =1 to set it (=0 unchecks the toggle).

    You have to go to your dgnlib and use Customize to modify the tool key-ins. Copy the tool from the Application Tools (which can't be modified) to User tools. Then select the tool and edit the key-in line in the Command Data window.

    I used this method to do exactly what you are asking for. I figured out the toolsettings key-ins to set the line strings/shapes and dimensions toggles on in drop element. This is my key-in: drop element;set item toolsettings stringstoggle=1;set item toolsettings dimensionstoggle=1.

    For settings with more than 1 option, 0 sets it to the first option on the list, 1 sets it to the second, 2 the third, and so forth.

    Here is another example. I want the place circle tool set to method=center, with the radius option checked. The key-in is:
    place circle icon;set item toolsettings placecirclemode=0;set item toolsettings radiustoggle=1;set item toolsettings showasradius=1

    Hope this helps. I've modified the settings for a number of tools this way.
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  • Alternatively  create a custom tools menu for you company ie ABC TOOLS

    via the customise the interface.dgnlib file and add icons to the custom menu or a custom  menu bar  with text only and add the keyins suggested last post and just keep adding to them ..

    Then make sure all the user worspace.cfg files have that modified  dgnlib pointed to over the network...

    Most important lastly  train users to use the custom menu tools instead of the default ones...

    before V8i we had the settings manager... I have one user who refuses to give up the old settings manager so for him I had to create a macro and assign it to an F key to force the old settings manager to work under v8i ss2..  some people just want to keep working the same way they always  have and cannot embrace change...

    you have to be able to accommodate everyone and still maintain productivity...

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  • I am looking to perform the exact scenario you laid out with using the Line Strings checked on by default for drop element. It changes it as if just checking the box, but when I leave the file, it resets to being checked off. How to I get it to save that setting as a default?

    Thank you.
  • Unknown said:
    I am looking to perform the exact scenario you laid out with using the Line Strings checked on by default for drop element. It changes it as if just checking the box, but when I leave the file, it resets to being checked off. How to I get it to save that setting as a default?

    Thank you.

    Borrowing from what John has already said and using  my F key approach is the easiest  option

    choose and f Key  from Worspace> function keys and paste this

    k,drop element;set item toolsettings stringstoggle=1 

    if you want others added just  change to include them sepparated by ; 

    k,drop element;set item toolsettings stringstoggle=1;set item toolsettings dimensionstoggle=1. 

    Now depending how your users are deployed you could  just  add the  F key change to a networked version of every  users F keys

    or  post and email with  how to edit their F key of  choice  with  the  keyin you provide similar to above instructions.. . I like this better  than global change as we users like  to personalise  custom the F keys...

    Alternatively  create a macro  with  the keyin  and  call the macro drop then to run it  teach users to keyin "macro drop" and before I get flamed yes its  basic

    but you can make it a VBA and use the  vba keyin to run it  so there you have  it several easy ways to deploy this .. my favorite is the  f key .. second favourite is a  custom icon pallet say called  ABC company tools and you keep adding new tools to it and  put it in your custom interface.. this is all great but  a lot more effort... the F key is the simplest and fastest to deploy...

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  • I used Customize to edit this tool with the following keyin: drop element;set item toolsettings stringstoggle=1;set item toolsettings dimensionstoggle=1. I use this modified version of Drop Element on a custom toolbar. This way, these settings are active every time I use the tool. I made several changes to default tool settings this way to match my work flow and save time.
  • Editing the tool itself seems like too much effort for me, I just love F keys I use them all so much I haveto take a copy  with me everytime I change  jobs...because some of the keyins are quite complex and  powerful, also  12 isnt enough  I have used shft and Alt combos too  and have a  paper overlay to label all the  functions so I dont  have to remember what they do.. yeah I'm old now... but over 48 F keys is a challenge  for anyone to remember....

    Lets start a new  post.. Favourite  F key scripts and what they  do..

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