<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>
<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://communities.bentley.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Where do we set  the default settings for tools?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/products/microstation/f/microstation-forum/104570/where-do-we-set-the-default-settings-for-tools</link><description>I find very difficult to set the defaut settings for tools. 
 Sometimes it is in dgnlib, sometimes in seed files, sometimes with configuration variables,... 
 And sometimes i don&amp;#39;t know where. For example the Drop Element tool: i would like Line strings</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: Where do we set  the default settings for tools?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/392500?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2016 12:38:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:3f648fba-9cee-4093-8daa-cb1a73f9adcc</guid><dc:creator>Brian L.</dc:creator><description>Thank you Lorys &amp;amp; Jan.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Where do we set  the default settings for tools?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/392365?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2016 09:21:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:b014fdc2-1089-409b-8cfd-b10b4cbd489e</guid><dc:creator>Jan Šlegr</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Brian,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Brian L.&amp;quot;]Am I correct that the above described key-in &amp;quot;set item toolsettings&amp;quot; &lt;em&gt;does not&lt;/em&gt; work with the Element Selection tool&amp;nbsp;or the Measure Distance tool?[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes, it&amp;#39;s correct unfortunately. Tools have to &amp;quot;prepared&amp;quot; to be compatible with &lt;span style="font-family:courier new,courier;"&gt;set item toolsettings&lt;/span&gt; key-in and some tools are not. They are not many of them, but they exist.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The solution mentioned by Lorys is the best in my opinion. Tool specific key-ins are in these cases probably equaivalent and they allow to set the tool parameters in the same way is set item toolsettings key-in with other tools.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;With regards,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp; Jan&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Where do we set  the default settings for tools?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/392358?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2016 03:55:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:b7ece1f8-6a13-4117-ba2b-28d8eaf5527a</guid><dc:creator>Lorys</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Brian L.&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Am I correct that the above described key-in &amp;quot;set item toolsettings&amp;quot; &lt;em&gt;does not&lt;/em&gt; work with the Element Selection tool&amp;nbsp;or the Measure Distance tool?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Brian L.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Your &amp;nbsp;right &amp;nbsp;but if you open up the keyin browser and type powerselector &amp;nbsp;then all the available options appear in the next column and if you choose that next column then if any other options could be applied they will appear in the next column...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="/cfs-file/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/273/7457.keyin.JPG"&gt;&lt;img src="/resized-image/__size/940x0/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/273/7457.keyin.JPG" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And likewise the measure tool&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="/cfs-file/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/273/keyin2.JPG"&gt;&lt;img src="/resized-image/__size/940x0/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/273/keyin2.JPG" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;maybe &amp;nbsp;if you post what you want to do somebody may &amp;nbsp;have a better answer or &amp;nbsp;repost to the programing forum...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Where do we set  the default settings for tools?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/392314?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2016 17:52:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:bdac4dd7-0b0a-4df6-8efa-8bd0cfff6a99</guid><dc:creator>Brian L.</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Am I correct that the above described key-in &amp;quot;set item toolsettings&amp;quot; &lt;em&gt;does not&lt;/em&gt; work with the Element Selection tool&amp;nbsp;or the Measure Distance tool?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Brian L.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Where do we set  the default settings for tools?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/392246?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2016 12:42:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:6563ed0b-2f4b-4c18-8d34-d6125b420a57</guid><dc:creator>John Cannon</dc:creator><description>See the Ask Inga wiki for the procedure to find the keyins for toolsettings:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href="http://communities.bentley.com/communities/other_communities/askinga/w/askinga/determining-keyins-associated-with-tool-settings"&gt;communities.bentley.com/.../determining-keyins-associated-with-tool-settings&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Where do we set  the default settings for tools?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/391993?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2016 10:24:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:e412fa53-8d8c-4940-b839-69bb8d485eb5</guid><dc:creator>Lorys</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I look forward to all users posting to the thread ... I already have 2 new ones for work&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I modified the fence print one to include my specific &amp;nbsp;pdf.pltcfg with pentable attached and it now &amp;nbsp;brings up the plot dialog ... I think I&amp;#39;ll add the execute at the end &amp;nbsp;and &amp;nbsp;put it &amp;nbsp;on all users F12 key for quick print to pdf and add in &amp;nbsp;the pdf.plt has open pdf at the &amp;nbsp;end they &amp;nbsp;get it loading and can decide to send to hard copy printer or not...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Where do we set  the default settings for tools?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/391596?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2016 13:33:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:82c07677-956c-4c73-87ab-2fc5cc827a99</guid><dc:creator>John Cannon</dc:creator><description>Editing the tools, to me, is just as easy as creating the F key key-in (same thing, basically).  I don&amp;#39;t like using shift/alt/etc. key combos - too hard for me to get right without looking (taking time).  Different approaches to do the same thing.  I have my custom toolbar set up with the tools I use most, so almost everything I do can be done without opening and closing more boxes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I will be looking for new key-in ideas in your new thread.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Where do we set  the default settings for tools?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/391566?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2016 07:58:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:6ca194a4-b21b-4522-8390-6747a33aa70c</guid><dc:creator>Lorys</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Editing the tool itself seems like too much effort for me, I just love F keys I use them all so much I haveto take a copy &amp;nbsp;with me everytime I change &amp;nbsp;jobs...because some of the keyins are quite complex and &amp;nbsp;powerful, also &amp;nbsp;12 isnt enough &amp;nbsp;I have used shft and Alt combos too &amp;nbsp;and have a &amp;nbsp;paper overlay to label all the &amp;nbsp;functions so I dont &amp;nbsp;have to remember what they do.. yeah I&amp;#39;m old now... but over 48 F keys is a challenge &amp;nbsp;for anyone to remember....&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lets start a new &amp;nbsp;post.. Favourite &amp;nbsp;F key scripts and what they &amp;nbsp;do..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Where do we set  the default settings for tools?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/391445?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2016 14:17:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:425fab3b-afae-441b-bcfb-b5d0f9d19336</guid><dc:creator>John Cannon</dc:creator><description>I used Customize to edit this tool with the following keyin:   drop element;set item toolsettings stringstoggle=1;set item toolsettings dimensionstoggle=1.  I use this modified version of Drop Element on a custom toolbar.  This way, these settings are active every time I use the tool.  I made several changes to default tool settings this way to match my work flow and save time.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Where do we set  the default settings for tools?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/391336?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2016 23:53:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:39a56bcc-de6f-4b0e-b108-beb656768c96</guid><dc:creator>Lorys</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Rusty Snider&amp;quot;]I am looking to perform the exact scenario you laid out with using the Line Strings checked on by default for drop element. It changes it as if just checking the box, but when I leave the file, it resets to being checked off. How to I get it to save that setting as a default?&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Thank you.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Borrowing from what John has already said and using &amp;nbsp;my F key approach is the easiest &amp;nbsp;option&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;choose and f Key &amp;nbsp;from Worspace&amp;gt; function keys and paste this&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;k,drop element;set item toolsettings stringstoggle=1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;if you want others added just &amp;nbsp;change to include them sepparated by ;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;k,drop element;set item toolsettings stringstoggle=1;set item toolsettings dimensionstoggle=1.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now depending how your users are deployed you could &amp;nbsp;just &amp;nbsp;add the &amp;nbsp;F key change to a networked version of every &amp;nbsp;users F keys&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;or &amp;nbsp;post and email with &amp;nbsp;how to edit their F key of &amp;nbsp;choice &amp;nbsp;with &amp;nbsp;the &amp;nbsp;keyin you provide similar to above instructions.. . I like this better &amp;nbsp;than global change as we users like &amp;nbsp;to personalise &amp;nbsp;custom the F keys...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Alternatively &amp;nbsp;create a macro &amp;nbsp;with &amp;nbsp;the keyin &amp;nbsp;and &amp;nbsp;call the macro drop then to run it &amp;nbsp;teach users to keyin &amp;quot;macro drop&amp;quot; and before I get flamed yes its &amp;nbsp;basic&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;but you can make it a VBA and use the &amp;nbsp;vba keyin to run it &amp;nbsp;so there you have &amp;nbsp;it several easy ways to deploy this .. my favorite is the &amp;nbsp;f key .. second favourite is a &amp;nbsp;custom icon pallet say called &amp;nbsp;ABC company tools and you keep adding new tools to it and &amp;nbsp;put it in your custom interface.. this is all great but &amp;nbsp;a lot more effort... the F key is the simplest and fastest to deploy...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Where do we set  the default settings for tools?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/391331?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2016 13:53:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:92a5a8b7-c738-4d23-9dac-2f0e8a9e8dc3</guid><dc:creator>Rusty Snider</dc:creator><description>I am looking to perform the exact scenario you laid out with using the Line Strings checked on by default for drop element.  It changes it as if just checking the box, but when I leave the file, it resets to being checked off.  How to I get it to save that setting as a default?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Where do we set  the default settings for tools?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/313981?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2015 07:56:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:0bb1e7af-479c-4f8d-9203-436491b87be8</guid><dc:creator>Lorys</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Alternatively &amp;nbsp;create a custom tools menu for you company ie ABC TOOLS&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;via the customise the interface.dgnlib file and add icons to the custom menu or a custom &amp;nbsp;menu bar &amp;nbsp;with text only and add the keyins suggested last post and just keep adding to them ..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Then make sure all the user worspace.cfg files have that modified &amp;nbsp;dgnlib pointed to over the network...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Most important lastly &amp;nbsp;train users to use the custom menu tools instead of the default ones...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;before V8i we had the settings manager... I have one user who refuses to give up the old settings manager so for him I had to create a macro and assign it to an F key to force the old settings manager to work under v8i ss2.. &amp;nbsp;some people just want to keep working the same way they always &amp;nbsp;have and cannot embrace change...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you have to be able to accommodate everyone and still maintain productivity...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Where do we set  the default settings for tools?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/313865?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2015 13:56:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:c46cf470-c9a2-4969-a387-0501aa47d022</guid><dc:creator>John Cannon</dc:creator><description>Here is a link to an explanation of how to get key-ins to change tool settings:  http://communities.bentley.com/communities/other_communities/askinga/w/askinga/how-to-extract-keyins-for-the-tool-settings-in-microstation-v8i&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What you do is open the key-in browser, then activate the command (like drop element).  Before you do anything else, type &amp;quot;set item toolsettings&amp;quot; into the key-in browser.  The various options will appear in the fourth column.  Find the option for the toggle you want to set, and add =1 to set it (=0 unchecks the toggle).  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You have to go to your dgnlib and use Customize to modify the tool key-ins.  Copy the tool from the Application Tools (which can&amp;#39;t be modified) to User tools.  Then select the tool and edit the key-in line in the Command Data window.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I used this method to do exactly what you are asking for.  I figured out the toolsettings key-ins to set the line strings/shapes and dimensions toggles on in drop element.  This is my key-in:   drop element;set item toolsettings stringstoggle=1;set item toolsettings dimensionstoggle=1.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For settings with more than 1 option, 0 sets it to the first option on the list, 1 sets it to the second, 2 the third, and so forth.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here is another example.  I want the place circle tool set to method=center, with the radius option checked.  The key-in is:&lt;br /&gt;
place circle icon;set item toolsettings placecirclemode=0;set item toolsettings radiustoggle=1;set item toolsettings showasradius=1&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hope this helps.  I&amp;#39;ve modified the settings for a number of tools this way.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>