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GregMM
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I see where this has been asked before, but I would really like the old Draft Tools to be compiled to work with v8i.  The new tools available under the detailing toolbar are so convoluted and require so much in the way of setup that for small jobs it's just not worth the trouble.  The old draft tools was simple yet elegant in that it generated titles, section callouts, leaders it a very convenient package, with a simple configuration dialog to control the symbology.  I can maybe see if I was working on a 50+ page project then the new system has it's merits, but all this work for really small projects is unbearable. I feel like now I've have to go back in time maybe 15 years to develop custom cells that will not perform nearly as well as the old Draft Tools.  No developer is developing these types of crucial tools anymore either, so the simple drafting needs of every project has become so much more complicated.

Greg McGowan

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Portland Parks & Recreation

  • 0 in reply to GregMM
    If you place the new markers straight out of the box and just edit their text - replacing the fields with your manual entries - does that work for you? What specifically are you missing? Do you need your own "looks"?
  • 0 Offline in reply to GregMM
    [admin note: This thread veered off-topic, so that part of the thread was split and moved to the MicroStation CONNECT Edition Early Access Program community]

     

  • 0 Offline in reply to Andrew Bell
    I realize the new tools are supposed to be superior, but they require so much more to setup and use than the old Draft Tools. It's really to bad that Bentley is not willing to listen to their customers anymore. I've used this software since it was PsudoStation and in years past they really did listen to the users. I guess we have to hope and pray that some kind developer will come along and compile these tools for us. It's not just the callout tools that Lorys alluded too, but it's also the place title, place section marker, all the tools and their configuration were so much simpler to use. Now we have to setup saved views of reference files, and the actual configuration of what you want to show graphically is much more complicated. Really sad day for our advancement and use of this product. Guess we will have to go back to developing enter data field cells, or tag enabled cells to get close to what Draftools did before.
  • 0 Offline in reply to mlm

    Of course the new tools are great,  were just  talking about an additional   simple place note  & leader were not talking about taking anything away or not using what is there  just an extra addon for quick notes similar to the old draft tools..

    Its just that to use the place not tool  because its a whole bunch of tools using the  same interface settings that you have to  go through too many options for a one off palce note... personally  I have managed to cope with the loss of draft tools but it doesnt mean I like haveing to do all the extra steps instead of pick an icon.

    Lorys

    Started msnt work 1990 - Retired  Nov 2022 ( oh boy am I old )

    But was long time user V8iss10 (8.11.09.919) dabbler CE  update 16 (10.16.00.80) 

    MicroStation user since 1990 Melbourne Australia.
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  • 0 in reply to Lorys
    I like to see Power Users and CAD Managers at the edge of technologies and best practices. If you reckon callouts and drawing titles part of hypermodelling workflows the old drafting tools I guess are really outdated. Even in a 2D Workflow I find the drawing title created from a Saved View dragged in to a Sheet File is so much quicker and really more elegant...? Don't you think?
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