Place Section Callout query

where do the Drawing Sheets cone from as shown in the screenshot below. 

They don't appear to be from DrawingSeed.DGNLIB as I have removed all the English options from the DGNLIB on the server.

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  • Hi everyone,

    I’m currently facing a problem most people seem to have already dealt with (Stuartw you seem to be one of them). I’ve read some existing threads, but I haven’t really find the answer I need (or maybe I’m not asking the right question), so I’ll try to summarise all of that and I hope we’ll find a simple solution.

    The thing is: I need to create new Drawing Seed in the drop-down menu of the Place Section Callout tool.

    As we can see on this screenshot, it exists only 4 Drawing Seeds with the same Discipline and Purpose (Section_English_C ; Section_English_C_SheetOnly, etc.)

    In the help there are two topics that explain the steps to follow, they are respectively:

    -          Drawing Seeds in DGN libraries

    -          Creating Customized Drawing Seeds

    So let’s follow these guides

    First we have to copy DrawingSeed.dgnlib in our folder and rename it (let’s call the rename file MyDrawingSeed), then make sure the MS_DGNLIBLIST is correctly configured.

    The next step consists in customize MyDrawingSeed.dgnlib, and here is the big issue.

    In MyDrawingSeed.dgnlib, I try to create a new section (tool: Place Section Callout) but I’m limited.

    I quote the help “If you to use the settings of an existing drawing seed (*** I don’t), select it from the drawingSeed drop-down list, else select none”

    So I choose Drawing Seed (none), BUT when I do that I’m not able to tick “create drawing” anymore, and I can’t go on through to process to automate dynamic views.

     

    So I’ve tried another way, and now came the odd thing.

    I’ve opened DrawingSeed directly from the System folder, and I did the same steps I’ve previously did.

    And when I use the Place Section Callout tool, I’m now able to choose drawing Seed: none AND create Drawing.

    This lead me to the Create Drawing window where I can choose the name, the discipline, the purpose, and the Seed Model of my future Sheet !

    By default, the seed Model is picked in the ModelSeed.dgn file but I'm now able to select any Model I’ve created, such as “CM vierge” in the screenshot below.

    So now when I return in a normal DGN and I use Place Section Callout, everything works fine. So on Microstation SS3, I’ve my own solution. It’s not perfect because it forces me to write in a file of the System folder, but at least it works. 

    But it’s time to switch to the CONNECT Edition, and on this product my trick doesn’t work anymore… Indeed the folder System has been move to C:\Programmes\...\Default. And the file DrawingSeed located in Default\Dgnlib\DrawComp\fr can only be open in “reading only”…

    If someone knows how to select drawing Seed: none AND create Drawing in a normal Dgnlib file, I think most of my difficulties will be sweep away.

    Maybe there is a link with the configuration variable MS_DRAWINGSEED_LIBLIST, but this variable doesn’t appear in the Configuration tool (workspace -> configuration), so I don’t know how to change it.

  • Hi Alexandre,
    Regarding your first issue about not able to turn ON Create Drawing toggle in V8i, this is because you also need to add the path of MyDrawingSeed.dgnlib to MS_DGNLIBLIST configuration variable along with MS_DRAWINGSEED_LIBLIST. You can change seed models for Drawing & Sheet only when you are working on configured dgnlib.

    In Connect Edition, config var MS_DRAWINGSEED_LIBLIST is removed & now drawing seeds are harvested from dgnlibs pointed by config var MS_DGNLIBLIST. Copy & rename your DrawingSeed.dgnlib to folder outside "Program Files" & add its path to MS_DGNLIBLIST.

    HTH

    Thanks
    Mahendra

       

  • Hi Mahendra,

    is this still the way it (not) works with MS_DRAWINGSEED_LIBLIST in CONNECT?

    Because then I would like to know how we are supposed to define what files get into that "Drawing Seed" list of that tool.
    Or asked the other way: what should I do if I want to EXCLUDE Bentleys default templates?

    Regards
    Stephan
  • Hi Stephan,
    Yes In CONNECT, config var MS_DRAWINGSEED_LIBLIST is removed.

    >>Because then I would like to know how we are supposed to define what files get into that "Drawing Seed" list of that tool.
    You need to assign your dgnlibs to config Var MS_DGNLIBLIST which will harvest drawing seeds in "Drawing Seed" list of that tool.

    >>Or asked the other way: what should I do if I want to EXCLUDE Bentleys default templates?
    If you want to exclude Bentley's default drawing seeds, then you need to remove "$(_USTN_SYSTEMROOT)\dgnlib\DrawComp\*.dgnlib" from config var MS_DGNLIBLIST value. Then point your dgnlib to this variable.

    Thanks
    Mahendra

       

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  • Hi Stephan,
    Yes In CONNECT, config var MS_DRAWINGSEED_LIBLIST is removed.

    >>Because then I would like to know how we are supposed to define what files get into that "Drawing Seed" list of that tool.
    You need to assign your dgnlibs to config Var MS_DGNLIBLIST which will harvest drawing seeds in "Drawing Seed" list of that tool.

    >>Or asked the other way: what should I do if I want to EXCLUDE Bentleys default templates?
    If you want to exclude Bentley's default drawing seeds, then you need to remove "$(_USTN_SYSTEMROOT)\dgnlib\DrawComp\*.dgnlib" from config var MS_DGNLIBLIST value. Then point your dgnlib to this variable.

    Thanks
    Mahendra

       

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