I have a few elements on my drawing (given to me by a third party) which appear as shared cells that I cannot do anything with apart from copy them. At first I thought they were just multi-line text but when I tried to edit them nothing happened, when I hover over them a box appears which reads:-
Element not valid for tool
Shared Cell: *U92 \ Text: dp
Level: AJ Drainage
There is no cell library attached with this cell in. The level is not locked or frozen, I have tried to Unlock, Ungroup and Drop the element but nothing happens.
When I open the Element Selection Tool and choose Shared Cell and then remove all other layers apart from the AJ Drainage apparently there are 150 elements. If I open the properties of the AJ Drainage Level in Level Manager, the Usage Tab only counts 2 Shared Cells.
I'm very confused, has anyone any idea how I can even just delete these elements?
Hi
Using Microstation V8i (SELECTseries 2) - Version 08.11.07.443 with no additional software.
No idea if it is a civil cell, drawing came to use from another company in Autocad fomat so has been converted. It does have [£D - V8 DGN] along side the file name at the top.
Regards
If you go to File > Properties and select the Statistics tab...
...what is identified in your file as "Original File Format"?
I Hope This Helps Someone Reading This! (Intergraph>PseudoStation>MicroStation user since 1980's)
These cells most likely came from DWG, although an add-on application can create them as well. An anonymous cell is a shared cell that has no name, or a name that is insignificant. Typically an asterisk "*" is used as the prefix in an anonymous cell name. MicroStation does not create such a cell in DGN workmode. This is an ACAD concept that was probably conceived to support the need for "unshared" cells - shared cells which are capable of performing what MicroStation's normal cells can do. Such a shared cell is controlled only by an application and may be re-created at anytime as the application sees necessary. Its definition is intentionally hid from an end user, so the user won't be able to place a new shared cell from the definition - a job solely reserved for the application. However, and end user is allowed to copy, move, or drop an anonymous cell. And yes, the user can also delete/compress unused anonymous shared cell definitions.
Whilst an application can lock a shared cell, that is generally not a common practice. So it is still not clear to me as what has effectively prevented Audrey's shared cells from being dropped. I can understand why a piece of text as a child of a shared cell definition that is not allowed to be changed, but I'd expect the shared cell instance itself to be dropped and thereafter the dropped text can be edited.
I had a similar case now.
It drives me crazy that a Level lists unused in Level Display and Level Manager while a Shared Cell Definition actually IS using that Level.
I finally found that the Level of the Elements was locked the Level of the Shared Cell AND the whole Sharedcell itself was locked on top...
A normal cell Definition is not bound to a Level, only the Levels grouped with it.
one of the first things I do with data / dgns I did not build is run the clean up utility to delete duplicates
Then I use the power selector to select all shared cells and then drop to normal cells
and lastly I run the compress with all options.. save settings and reopen the file..
This fixs potential problems before they start.. well it works for me...
Lorys
Started msnt work 1990 - Retired Nov 2022 ( oh boy am I old )
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Hi Lorys, I agree with this. Yet I guess that cleanup routine wont help when the Levels and/or the Elements are locked.