I have a few elements on my drawing (given to me by a third party) which appear as shared cells that I cannot do anything with apart from copy them. At first I thought they were just multi-line text but when I tried to edit them nothing happened, when I hover over them a box appears which reads:-
Element not valid for tool
Shared Cell: *U92 \ Text: dp
Level: AJ Drainage
There is no cell library attached with this cell in. The level is not locked or frozen, I have tried to Unlock, Ungroup and Drop the element but nothing happens.
When I open the Element Selection Tool and choose Shared Cell and then remove all other layers apart from the AJ Drainage apparently there are 150 elements. If I open the properties of the AJ Drainage Level in Level Manager, the Usage Tab only counts 2 Shared Cells.
I'm very confused, has anyone any idea how I can even just delete these elements?
Using Microstation V8i (SELECTseries 2) - Version 08.11.07.443 with no additional software.
No idea if it is a civil cell, drawing came to use from another company in Autocad fomat so has been converted. It does have [£D - V8 DGN] along side the file name at the top.
If you go to File > Properties and select the Statistics tab...
...what is identified in your file as "Original File Format"?
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These cells most likely came from DWG, although an add-on application can create them as well. An anonymous cell is a shared cell that has no name, or a name that is insignificant. Typically an asterisk "*" is used as the prefix in an anonymous cell name. MicroStation does not create such a cell in DGN workmode. This is an ACAD concept that was probably conceived to support the need for "unshared" cells - shared cells which are capable of performing what MicroStation's normal cells can do. Such a shared cell is controlled only by an application and may be re-created at anytime as the application sees necessary. Its definition is intentionally hid from an end user, so the user won't be able to place a new shared cell from the definition - a job solely reserved for the application. However, and end user is allowed to copy, move, or drop an anonymous cell. And yes, the user can also delete/compress unused anonymous shared cell definitions.
Whilst an application can lock a shared cell, that is generally not a common practice. So it is still not clear to me as what has effectively prevented Audrey's shared cells from being dropped. I can understand why a piece of text as a child of a shared cell definition that is not allowed to be changed, but I'd expect the shared cell instance itself to be dropped and thereafter the dropped text can be edited.
I had a similar case now.
It drives me crazy that a Level lists unused in Level Display and Level Manager while a Shared Cell Definition actually IS using that Level.
I finally found that the Level of the Elements was locked the Level of the Shared Cell AND the whole Sharedcell itself was locked on top...
A normal cell Definition is not bound to a Level, only the Levels grouped with it.
Info for the selected function? Click into the "Toolssettings" dialog and press F1 -- Info zur aktuellen Funktion? Klicken Sie in das "Funktionseinstellungsfenster" und drücken F1
one of the first things I do with data / dgns I did not build is run the clean up utility to delete duplicates
Then I use the power selector to select all shared cells and then drop to normal cells
and lastly I run the compress with all options.. save settings and reopen the file..
This fixs potential problems before they start.. well it works for me...
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Hi Lorys, I agree with this. Yet I guess that cleanup routine wont help when the Levels and/or the Elements are locked.
Gerd Eisenacher said:Hi Lorys, I agree with this. Yet I guess that cleanup routine wont help when the Levels and/or the Elements are locked.
Yes thats a real problem..
But I also use the select all , then Control U , to unlock elements selected
I also use the level manager and make sure the the pad lock for locked levels is visible again select all in the level manager and click on the padlock to unlock..
I suppose I could make a vba or script to batch process files to do
1 run the cleanup delete duplicates
2 Compress all options
3 select all shared cells and drop to normal cells
4 Select all elements and unlock elements
5 Select all levels and unlock
But I'm a bit lazy now days and just run the tools and keyins one at at a time...