erroneous "Element is on a locked level" message

Hi there, I just encounter a strange error message that severely impacts my work flow: - I’ve created several 2D graphics in separate DGN files from EPS files - I’ve copied those 2D graphics individually into a DGN master file - Once I try to manipulate an imported 2D graphic in the master file, some elements seem to be locked and display the message “Element is on a locked level”. I can’t move or do anything else to those elements. - The layer those “locked” elements are on is not locked, though neither are the individual elements. - I’ve also tried a different approach by referencing the separate DGN files with the 2D graphics and then “Merge into Master” but I encounter the same problem with the erroneous “Element is on a locked level” message. How can I import those elements and manipulate them? Some elements seem to work fine but some seem to be locked and the locked ones are all BSpline curves. Thanks you for your help in advance! Kurt PS: Already tried the obvious, saved file under different name, restart the MS, restart the computer, etc.
  • Go to the Edit pulldown and choose "select all", then go back to the Edit pulldown and choose "unlock" - left click to accept. Do the elements function as you need them at this point ?

    Timothy Hickman

    CADD Manager | CADD Department

    timothy.hickman@colliersengineering.com

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  • Tim,

    Thank you for your suggestion. Unfortunately it didn't remedy the problem.

    As mentioned in my initial post, the erroneous message is "Element is on a locked level". It seems to be a "level" not an "element" problem. Somehow the element "thinks" it is on a locked level which it isn't. The level is unlocked. Even if I copy it to a different level it still "thinks" it is on a locked level...

    Detailed description:
    - Manipulate Task Move
    - I slide the cursor over the object, a BSPline curve
    - The crossed out circle appears with the message window "Element is on a locked level"

    I just don't know how to move forward...

    Kurt
  • Unknown said:
    Tim,

    Thank you for your suggestion. Unfortunately it didn't remedy the problem.

    As mentioned in my initial post, the erroneous message is "Element is on a locked level". It seems to be a "level" not an "element" problem. Somehow the element "thinks" it is on a locked level which it isn't. The level is unlocked. Even if I copy it to a different level it still "thinks" it is on a locked level...

    Detailed description:
    - Manipulate Task Move
    - I slide the cursor over the object, a BSPline curve
    - The crossed out circle appears with the message window "Element is on a locked level"

    I just don't know how to move forward...

    Kurt

    Dont know if it makes any difference but are you using the Bspline tools to manipulate it? 

    ok can you fence  file out and post the offending objects and then detail what you want to do to the  objects and we can try and duplicate here

    if we can do it then  its a setting at your end  if not, then its a procedure that needs to be done  .. hard to work out with out a real dgn  to play with...

    Lorys

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  • Was this issue ever resolved? I am having the same issue with a civil element in open roads and it is is comprised of a BSPLINE curve.

     

    Jennifer Perry

    Highway Design | Johnson, Mirmiran & Thompson, Inc.

  • Settings > Locks > Level

    It seems, at least in Microstation, when this is toggled on you can only manipulate elements your currently active level.  Toggling it off should allow freedom to work with all levels, assuming it isn't also locked in the level manager.