OK, so half the parametric doors in my drawing just disappears... again. Will I never learn? Never believe what a developer says in the Marketing BS.
I've used every Major rev of MicroStation ever released and have Beta tested starting with V4. This has too be the most unstable product (10X) that I've had the extreme miss fortune of using. Who ever is responsible for releasing this as a usable product should be fired. They either have no pride on no clue about quality. Its truly sad to see a company that once led in performance, stability and features decline to such a level.
Reggie, No, I've run out of time...and obviously patience. How about we start by dealing with the 20 or so open defects I've already filed since product release (not to mention the ones in beta that still aren't fixed). It seems pretty pointless to keep spending all my time logging issues that may or may not get fixed at some unknown point in time. I don't believe anybody could complete a real project with this product. At least not if they are trying to incorporate any new "features" like parmemetrics or items. I've try, given it my all and now I'm screwed because I can't deliver files that are stable and have no idea when or if they will be. I don't want to take this out on support people because they've been dealt the same crappy hand as the customers. This was clearly a management decision to shove this out the door prematurely. Now you guys are on the front line trying to defend a really bad position because somebody in the rear pushed thru a bad plan and I'm telling my client "Sorry your building doesn't really need doors does it? Well maybe you can have them when someone at BSI gets their act together." Maybe they were right and I should have used AutoCAD like they wanted me to.
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mwlong said:In house testing can only go so far.
I don't deny that there are some complex issues that are bound to arise only in real world... but... the default browser for Windows 10 is EDGE which Help doesn't work on. (Defect 7000402018) and was reported during the EAP. Seriously how hard can it be to see if Help works on a default install of a "certified" platform?
There were plenty of other known issues as well and the defects I've uncovered have surfaced doing first attempts at some very simple tasks.
Bentley has a lot of resources at their disposal. This product is simply showing where their priorities are.
DavidG said:Bentley has a lot of resources at their disposal. This product is simply showing where their priorities are.
It's pretty clever note! In fact there are never enough resources (developers, testers, documentation writers etc.) in software development ;-), but there is always a chance to change resource allocation and I agree the results express company priorities. From this perspective I am not sure if MicroStation is really top priority, me feeling is more the priority is to develop or acquire many products but afterwards there is no capacity to keep steady active development matching competitors.
Wellcome to age of (fr)agile development... I blame it all on Facebook and their ilk :-)
dominic SEAH said:Wellcome to age of (fr)agile development
We have disgreesed a bit from the original topic ;-)
To associate fragile (and bugs etc) with agile development is a huge incomprehension what agile is about. It's just a concept, it's even not a methodology, and if used wrongly as any other software development style, it leads to buggy software necessarily. But it's not because of agile, but because of wrong development. Agile itself is in fact more resitant and better suited for bugs hunting and it doesn't tell anything like "bugs are allowed", but unfortunately today "agile development" is often used as an explanation / excuse why software is not good :-(
Edited: The linked video is nice :-)