Connect - will it ever get fixed?

OK, so half the parametric doors in my drawing just disappears... again.  Will I never learn?  Never believe what a developer says in the Marketing BS.

I've used every Major rev of MicroStation ever released and have Beta tested starting with V4.  This has too be the most unstable product (10X) that I've had the extreme miss fortune of using.  Who ever is responsible for releasing this as a usable product should be fired.  They either have no pride on no clue about quality.  Its truly sad to see a company that once led in performance, stability and features decline to such a level.

Sincerely

DavidG

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  • Could you provide a sample file and more details to the issue that you are experiencing.


       

  • Reggie,

    No, I've run out of time...and obviously patience. How about we start by dealing with the 20 or so open defects I've already filed since product release (not to mention the ones in beta that still aren't fixed). It seems pretty pointless to keep spending all my time logging issues that may or may not get fixed at some unknown point in time.

    I don't believe anybody could complete a real project with this product. At least not if they are trying to incorporate any new "features" like parmemetrics or items. I've try, given it my all and now I'm screwed because I can't deliver files that are stable and have no idea when or if they will be.

    I don't want to take this out on support people because they've been dealt the same crappy hand as the customers. This was clearly a management decision to shove this out the door prematurely. Now you guys are on the front line trying to defend a really bad position because somebody in the rear pushed thru a bad plan and I'm telling my client "Sorry your building doesn't really need doors does it? Well maybe you can have them when someone at BSI gets their act together." Maybe they were right and I should have used AutoCAD like they wanted me to.

  • stuartw said:
    If the file format is the same you can use SS1, SS2, SS3 or CONNECT!!

    This is huge misunderstanding. DGN V8 produced by mentioned versions is the same in a similar manner as all XML files are the same format. Yes, they are, but it tells nothing about their content and if a particular application is able to interpret the file.

    For the whole history MicroStation is (fortunately) designed in such way that if there is a new element, but still correct accordingly to file format specification, it's simply ignored. DGN V8 file format is designed it allows to add new features without breaking backward compatibility, so it seems the files are the same, but properly speaking they are not.

    There are plenty of new features in CONNECT Edition that are not fully compatible with V8i, especially 3D parametric tools, also Acute3D references are not supported by V8i now etc. There is no "V8i compatibility mode" available (but it would be nice ;-), so if I will trust the format is the same as you claim, I will be surprised probably soon after conversion/data sharing, printing and other mechanisms fine-tuned for V8 will start failing simply because a user clicked and used accidentally a tool that produces something MicroStation V8i doesn't know.

    Imaging all new features, the backward compatibility is in my opinion incredibly good (and part of known incompatibilities are probably bugs), many SW producers don't care about it at all, but even with such good system I know many CAD administrators that will not allow to use CONNECT Edition because any potential threat is too big threat and to potentialy have to repair broken workflows is a catastrophic scenario influencing many people targeting tense deadlines.

    With regards,

      Jan

  • Unknown said:
    DGN V8 file format is designed it allows to add new features without breaking backward compatibility, so it seems the files are the same, but properly speaking they are not.

    Yes, SS4 will probably introduce all those Element/Display Handlers to allow the 32 bit V8i apps to 'handle' all those new Connect elements and export/print them.

    Looking at the new bits planned for ABD SS6U1 and Prostructures SS8, there will also be DWG 2016 schema / Object Enabler and IFC4 compatibility updates, minor Dynamic View section graphics config, as well as a the Connect Client / PW Connect, Windows 10 support.

    Not sure if the new .imodel format would be attachable.

  • Unknown said:
    Yes, SS4 will probably introduce all those Element/Display Handlers to allow the 32 bit V8i apps to 'handle' all those new Connect elements and export/print them.

    What I read and heard in corridors about MicroStation V8i (SELECTseries 4) ;-) ... Windows 10 certification, Connection Client / Cloud Services support, Accute3D format supported as a reference, RealDWG 2016.

    Unknown said:
    Not sure if the new .imodel format would be attachable.

    It would be nice, it's probably more about an amount of work required to add such support than about some seriously complex technical barriers.

    I hope we will find out what expectations become reality soon ;-)

    Regards,

      Jan

  • An Interesting FACT

    The last time a Bentley person replied to this IMPORTANT thread was 19th Feb. That's nearly 1 month ago......


    WE NEED NEWS, WE NEED TO KNOW IF WE ARE WASTING OUR TIME deploying CE. When when when is the update. what will it have fixed, broken, what is new, and HAVE BENTLEY Listened to US

    Ian
  • Unfortunately Ian, Bentley as a company, don't worry about what their customers think.
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