Was talking about the Connect interface with and old work mate from previous office.Looks like both agree. Ribbon interface is a catastrophic decision.
Personally, I've really felt disconnected with Bentley's vision on how MS should evolve, I love MS, SS3 is like a Ferrari tunned for race so don´t think I'm here for Autodesk fanboyism.
I got into MS after Acad swtiched to Ribbon. I loved Bentley systems because its unique approach to engineering soft with supper serious and practical interfaces, super powerfull design environment, great 3d modelling tool, the keyboard shorcuts that allow you to super quickly change tools etc...
I could not believe Bentley would EVER switch to Ribbon. I'm so dissapointed. What do you people think? you like it?.
I don't use shift+right click to access view tools but will start using it from now on! I'm not quite sure what KEN-T is on about when talking about the shortcut: Press Shift (1st action), right click (2nd), click Window Area tool (3rd) VS Press ESC button/home focus(1st action) press 4 - View tools(2nd), press 4 Window Area tool (3rd). Or am I missing something?
I would have to say that the CE ribbon is larger than other ribbons I'm used to, and does slightly take up more screen real-estate, but my main issue is it's responsiveness. It always seems to take a second between my clicks to access the tool and actually opening the tool.
P.S microstation has been in need of an interface update for years but you're never going to please the anti ribbon clan,
Ivo Blaauw= = = = = = = = = = = = =Look what the CAD dragged in...
Gino, I tried it and found it quite "against my hand" if that means anything. 1. QQ is QA for me on AZERTY, maybe that will be fixed in update 1. I could change it manually as well. 2. press and hold down shift and right click 3. press d 4. press and hold down shift and right click 5. press v 6. press and hold down shift and right click 7. press c 8. deselect If you have your hands set to do just that sequence, you can do that quite fast. If you have to look at your keyboard, then the screen to see what key to tap, then the keyboard again and so on it's really not worth it. I'm not in the habit of using the keyboard for view controls anyway (I hide those in PM) and clicking the button that's within half an inch of your cursor was just easier than going back and forth from screen to keyboard. With PM in panel mode, I just look at the panel on the screen and see the keys I have to tap 74, Q3, whatever. Then keyboard and I'm in the command. With these popups I'm looking back in forth from screen to keyboard, screen again, keyboard again. PM Panel mode is also a lot easier to read, vertical, horizontal, 1, 2. Popups are zig-zag, hard to read and the popups themselves are quite unresponsive at times. With my solution I look for the shift key once, and the rest is on the screen. If I practiced that sequence I'd get faster, then again if I needed to do that a lot Ivo's solution would be the way to go with an additional ";choose none" because I'm just that lazy at times.
Rod WingSenior Systems Analyst
Just for comparison and discussion using the same ribbon area.
Microstation CONNECT 10.17.00.209
ORD CONNECT 2021 R1 10.10.1.3
Microstation v8i SS 10 08.11.09.919
Power InRoads v8i 08.11.09.615
Unknown said:Programs like Word, Excel, Outlook are fine for a ribbon interface. How often do you change the tool you are utilizing at any given time in those products? How often do you need to change tools to zoom in/out or pan around? Not very often.
The ribbon is done well in Autodesk Revit, I use it just as much as MicroStation and I need access to the Revit tools just as much as the MicroStation tools. The issue is not that there's a ribbon, (unless you're part of the anti-ribbon clan) the issue is that the current CONNECT ribbon is not executed correctly. Which, if I'm honest, isn't surprising as most software that migrated to a ribbon didn't have a perfect interface off the bat.
Can we please stop looking back and focus on improving the ribbon? Or is that beyond the realm of possibility for some?
I'll comment more about the ribbon later when time permits, I would like to hear your views on the size of the small icons used in the UI, the lack of medium sized icons and of course the over the top giant icons which take up too much space. Please take a look at these in light of todays hi-res monitors.