I was wondering if someone could clarify some issues I am having with Text Styles and Dimension Styles - its largely to do with understanding how Text and Dimension styles work and how they interact with each other.
I have set up a Text Style Called "Text Style One" with various settings and I have made it this the Active Text Style.
I have also created a Dimension Style called "Dim Style One".
My first question is this; in the Dimension Style Menu under Text Style, if I select "Text Style One" from the drop down menu and uncheck Font, Height, Width, Underline than am I correct in thinking that the dimension will be displayed using all of the settings under my text style in this case "Text Style One"?
Below is a screen shot of both my Dim Style and Text Style Menu.
Following on from this question using the same Dimension & Text Style (Dim Style One and Text Style One), if I now went into the Dimension Style menu and selected "Text Style One" from the drop down list under Text Style but this time I checked Font, Height, and Width and changed them to Bankgothic, 0.5 x 0.5. Than am I correct in thinking that the dimension will be displayed using all of the settings under "Text Style One" BUT Font Height and Width will be ignored from "Text Style One" and the Font, Height Width will be taken directly from "Dim Style One" - effectively checking Font/Height/width overrides these settings from the Text Style?
Below is a screen shot showing both Dim Style and Text Style Menu but with Font/Height/width checked and a different value entered compared to "Text Style One."
I have noticed that there are green ticks next to the text styles, does anyone know what these are and why they are there? below is a screen shot.
My final question is this; Using the Dimension Style "Dim Style One", when I attempt to dimension an element the Linear Dimensioning Tool menu appears which has a drop down menu associated to.
If I select this drop down menu to choose a different Dimension Style there is an option called Style: (none) Use Active Settings - What does it mean use Active settings and does the option Style: (none) refer to Dimension Style: (none) or Text Style: (none). Below is a screen shot of what I am referring to.
Any input will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you all.
The way I have been using text and dim styles is not to set any text style in the dim style settings but set up the symbology there as I may want to use different text heights and fonts etc... because the place note tool is also a dimension it too is affected by dimstyles
SoI have set a series of heights for specific text styles so when I need place a dimension I choose the text style I want and choose the dime style usually the text style is the active text style anyway and this works very well for me and I have these set in a dgnlib file as well as a back up copy on my desktop that I can use import with just incase the network drops out I can still keep working on current drawing on C : drive, and later update network files or even projectwise .. what ever the client uses...
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Unknown said:Thanks Josh for the response, it has really helped. Just a follow up; When I create a Text or Dimension Style, are these styles stored within the dgn file or are they stored elsewhere i.e. in my C drive somewhere. Where you have said " 1) Grey book: The style is in a library but not in the local file" Am I correct in thinking that I can create several different Text Styles for example and save them as a library similar to Cells i.e. I can have many cells in a cell library - if so how would I do this? Where you have mentioned "local file" and "local style" what do these mean? PS I know these maybe silly questions but I am still slowly learning the software and I don't have many people whom I can turn to for help. Thanks
When you want to create a dim or text style by rights you should do it in the dgnlib file pointed to by your workspace config
creating these inside an active dgn only stores it locally in the active dgn, however it can be imported...
My preference is to copy out the dgnlib create the additional styles then later outside microstation replace the dgn lib
I also prefer to have text and dims in a separate dgnlib to any customised interface or menus dgnlib its just better organised and easier to maintain ie
Level_Names.dgnlib ( this also has the symbology for your standards of level names)
FYI you can contact me directly offline anytime I'm happy to help teach you anything I can about microstation.. use the pm link if you cant find my email...
Unknown said:When I create a Text or Dimension Style, are these styles stored within the dgn file
They are stored in the active DGN file — the file you have open at the moment.
A DGN library (*.dgnlib) is a DGN file with a different extension. The way to create a library of styles is to open a new DGNLib, or edit an existing DGNLib. The DGNLib should be in a folder where MicroStation subsequently looks for library files (e.g. ..\Workspace\Standards\dgnlib).
Subsequently, when you open a DGN file for model creation or editing, the libraries are attached automatically.
A cell library is another DGN file with a *.cel extension. It's a box of models, any one of which can be placed as a cell in another DGN model. Since any DGN file may contain multiple models, there's not much difference between a cell library and the DGN file you use to create drawings.
Unknown said:Where you have mentioned "local file" and "local style" what do these mean?
If you never use a style, its definition remains in the DGNLib untouched. When you first use a style, it's copied into your active file — the local file in Josh's terminology.
Because the style becomes local, it's then possible to edit either the local definition or the DGNLib definition and inadvertently get them out of sync. The different icons that Josh describes provide a visual clue.
Unknown said:I know these maybe silly questions
Not a all! MicroStation is a big topic, and some of its nooks and crannies are bewildering. I doubt that there's any one of us who uses every bit of MicroStation. We all have something to learn.
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