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Turn Annotation Cells Into Graphic Cells

David Renaud
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Hi,

Mstn V8i SS4 v08.11.09.829 running on a Win7 machine.

I have read all about making cells to be Annotation cells. I want to go in reverse - I want to make annotation cells be plain, graphic cells. ESRI ArcMap no longer recognizes annotation cells as points (no problems with graphic cells), and all of our mapping goes into the GIS, so it's an issue.

I'm not an expert mstn user, so if you can keep it simple in explaining how to "remove annotation" from cells, that would be good.

thanks

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    The key-in "annotationscale remove" will remove the "Is Annotation" scale toggle switch and set it to "False", but the cells could have been either Point or Graphic type originally.

    I Hope This Helps Someone Reading This!  (Intergraph>PseudoStation>MicroStation user since 1980's)

  • 0 Offline in reply to George A. Martin
    I tried that, but no joy. The cells lose their annotation scale, of course, from 40 to 1 (invisible). They're listed in the properties dialog as annotation cells, annotation = False. ArcGIS still doesn't see them.

    They are coming from the cell library as annotation cells. I'm guessing I need to change it there (ourcells.cel)?
  • 0 Offline in reply to David Renaud

    Changing the cell in the cell library will only affect cells being placed going forward, it will not change the existing cells in the design files. You could possibly update the cell in the cell library and then use the replace cells tools and update or replace the existing cell in the design file with the changed cell in the cell library.

    Timothy Hickman

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  • 0 Offline in reply to Tim Hickman
    You can also find the cells that had the Annotation Scale setting and once it is switched to Off you can scale them by their insertion point (Element Center) by the scale factor that the Annotation Scale set (i.e. 40x). This should get them to the proper size but what Tim suggested, I think should also work. Were the cells placed with Annotation Scale set to True (Point/Graphic types?) Could be that Point Cells are used and that is what ArcGIS is having a problem with so you would also have to convert the Point Cells to Graphic cells. They may have been Shared Cells too!
    A small Sample of what you are dealing with would be helpful along with the Software & software version you are using (i.e. MicroStation V8i (Ss3)). You can attach a sample file using the "Advanced Reply Editor"

    I Hope This Helps Someone Reading This!  (Intergraph>PseudoStation>MicroStation user since 1980's)

  • 0 Offline in reply to George A. Martin

    1-1570-61 ERD Plan.dgnTim & George,

    The cells, from the cell library, are of type Graphic. they are "Annotation Cells", as per the top line in the properties dialog. They were placed with annotation on. For testing, I created a *point* cell, had it placed as an annotation cell (Model properties), but ArcGIS doesn't see it. so it seems that the key is that it cannot be annotation.

    I hesitate to change the cell library, but it's important to get the data into the GIS. Most of our drawings are done at 40 scale, so maybe it won't be too drastic.

    I'll attach the dgn - the green water valve cell is simply a graphic cell, the red are annotation graphic cells. Only the green one shows up in ESRI. it is not specific to this cell, but all annotation cells.

    I could use a tutorial on how to edit an existing cell library. I think I know how to create a new one.

    I've got the question posed on the ESRI groups as well.

    thanks.

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