Turn Annotation Cells Into Graphic Cells

Changing the cell in the cell library will only affect cells being placed going forward, it will not change the existing cells in the design files. You could possibly update the cell in the cell library and then use the replace cells tools and update or replace the existing cell in the design file with the changed cell in the cell library.

1-1570-61 ERD Plan.dgnTim & George,

The cells, from the cell library, are of type Graphic. they are "Annotation Cells", as per the top line in the properties dialog. They were placed with annotation on. For testing, I created a *point* cell, had it placed as an annotation cell (Model properties), but ArcGIS doesn't see it. so it seems that the key is that it cannot be annotation.

I hesitate to change the cell library, but it's important to get the data into the GIS. Most of our drawings are done at 40 scale, so maybe it won't be too drastic.

I'll attach the dgn - the green water valve cell is simply a graphic cell, the red are annotation graphic cells. Only the green one shows up in ESRI. it is not specific to this cell, but all annotation cells.

I could use a tutorial on how to edit an existing cell library. I think I know how to create a new one.

I've got the question posed on the ESRI groups as well.

thanks.

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(Please visit the site to view this file)Tim & George,

The cells, from the cell library, are of type Graphic. they are "Annotation Cells", as per the top line in the properties dialog. They were placed with annotation on. For testing, I created a *point* cell, had it placed as an annotation cell (Model properties), but ArcGIS doesn't see it. so it seems that the key is that it cannot be annotation.

I hesitate to change the cell library, but it's important to get the data into the GIS. Most of our drawings are done at 40 scale, so maybe it won't be too drastic.

I'll attach the dgn - the green water valve cell is simply a graphic cell, the red are annotation graphic cells. Only the green one shows up in ESRI. it is not specific to this cell, but all annotation cells.

I could use a tutorial on how to edit an existing cell library. I think I know how to create a new one.

I've got the question posed on the ESRI groups as well.

thanks.

find which library.cel file has all the cells you want...

make a copy and rename it no annotation

now open the new cell.cell file as if it were a dgn

its just now a series of sub models

from the model tool the blue box like icon  click on the second tick under Annotation scale icon

and turn it off next  click on the file model name and open the cell

now measure how big the original cell is , determine the desired size and scale up centered accordingly

There are better more efficient ways to do this but I prefer to be cautious and leave the original as it was and tackle a copy...

this way you cant hurt any thing...

I think you can just have option to use annotation or not use annotation but  if you want annotation on for text and linestyles  but not cells then you best have two cell libs plus you never know how big to change your  cell at placement time and for consistancy its better to decide or  learn what size they are or will be by default 

I like to make cells at  1m or 1 mm or 1 master unit ( not always possible )  then at  placement I can just use multiples for attach at  X times and would know ahead what the final size will be....