This version seems slower than previous versions when to access the back stage or recent files. Perhaps a 1-2 sec delay. This should be instantaneous!!
Anyone from Bentley want to respond to this?
Ditto, been having the same issue since EAP1. All these speed issues have constantly been raised, getting on for around 2.5 years without resolution.
Accessing the backstage is criminally slow.
Switching/opening Files is Slow
First open is always very slow.
It appears that this may be to do with the ability to drill into files/models +/or the previews. Can Bentley not just give us a way to turn this into a simple file list of recent files, as per v8?
Additionally,
Printing is Slow
Opening Cell Libraries is slow (if you have the properties window open)
It's a shame as the majority of users prefer connect to v8 once they get their head around the UI, just most of them ending up incredibly frustrated at the time they are wasting on waiting...
Thanks Ian - can't say there's an improvement.
From explorer, using right click> Open with>testfile.dgn...
CE (10.09.00.23) takes 26 seconds to open a file.
v8i (08.11.09.829) takes 16 seconds to open the file (and all commands/ functions/ features, now buried in a laggy CE backstage, are instantly available in V8i).
When CE7 or 8 was released Bentley included a new variable called
MS_WORKSETMISMATCH_ALERT_EXCLUDE_VARS_ALLLEVEL
This variable is set at the system level so its not one that is obvious. However, this variable does or did have an impact of the speed of CE (CE( should have it fixed)
With this new variable there are several switches that are set by default;
MS_CELLOUT;MS_CELL;MS_CELLLIST;MS_DGNLIBLIST;MS_DEF;MS_DGNLIBLIST_CLASH;MS_DGNLIBLIST_LINKS;MS_DGNLIBLIST_PRINTING;MS_DGNLIBLIST_RENDER;MS_GUIDGNLIBLIST;MS_SEEDFILES
The switch that I have discovered to be directly related to speed is the switch MS_DEF.
So I now set this variable at the Organization level and define it as;
MS_WORKSETMISMATCH_ALERT_EXCLUDE_VARS_ALLLEVEL = MS_CELLOUT;MS_CELL;MS_CELLLIST;MS_DGNLIBLIST;MS_DGNLIBLIST_CLASH;MS_DGNLIBLIST_LINKS;MS_DGNLIBLIST_PRINTING;MS_DGNLIBLIST_RENDER;MS_GUIDGNLIBLIST;MS_SEEDFILES
ie the MS_DEF has been removed.
Give it a try and see what you think
Ian
Ian/Max,
The MS_CELLLIST Variable has a small impact on speed, depending on how many/how large cell libraries you have. The more/larger, the slower. (I set this primarily to list cell libraries in the cell manager drop downs and also is required if setting any cells to standards or tools)
The properties window actually has the greatest impact. Close down properties and open cell libraries, they are now as fast as V8.
Ian,
What is his (hidden)variable supposed to achieve. From it's name it would suggest something if you are opening a file in the wrong workset, so if opening a file in the correct workset, surely it should have no effect?
Anyway, nice to see us users trying to solve bentleys problems, again...
Duncan
True, but if you were to scan the files being access on CE startup, the paths are being reviewed and need to be processed. The one that was a shock was MS_DEF.
Thanks Ian -
I'm not really familiar with configuration variables, and very rarely tweak them. So, I'm trying to follow your suggestion - but getting stuck at the very beginning;
When I go to Configuration Variables (which has "User [Personal]" at the top, next to MS_WORKSETMISMATCH_ALERT_EXCLUDE_VARS_ALLLEVEL, in the Level column I see the word "Undefined".
So, I don't see the list of switches you've described - and can therefore not remove MS_DEF as you suggest.
However, the list does appear in the next variable; MS_WORKSETMISMATCH_ALERT_EXCLUDE_VARS_WORKSPACELEVEL (System). Should I remove it from this list?
Duncan - my Properties window does not open by default, so it doesn't come into play in my evaluation of file opening speed.
Max
This is hard to explain and if you make a mistake could cause CE to crash. Please be careful....
In the configuration dialog, locate the variable as you have. Then use the edit option and change the text to remove the ms_def
Thanks Ian - now I'm nervous! I'll give it a try later after my current deadlines.
At least I know I'll still have fast and reliable V8i to fall back on.
no problem Max, this only affects cell lib openings, not actual MS opening time.
I'm going to keep bumping this thread until someone from Bentley actually engages with us.
Ignoring this problem is definitely not making it go away. indeed it seems to be getting worse.