New Datum For GCS in Australia GDA2020 is comming

I just  heard were going to adopt a new datum in Australia its called GDA 2020 , the old datum GDA 94 is now 17 years old  and at 7 cm per year continental drift its time for a new datum.

V8i ss3 doesn't have this datum available in the library of datums... does SS4  have this? Does CE have it?

Will Bentley provide a stand alone file to be able to import it into Microstation to allow us to have the new datum when we need it? ( local government will want us using it within 1 - 2 years and all government spacial data will be in that datum).

Will the update file from Bentley  work will both CE and  V8i SS3 to SS4?

Does  current Bentley Map have this datum?  If so can somebody export the datum so we can add it to our datum (folder? )  so Mstn V8 etc can find it?

I know we should probably post this in the Mapping forum but I'm wanting to reach as many  Microstation users as possible

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  • GDA2000 geographic coordinate systems will be present in MicroStation CONNECT edition Update 12. In addition to this will be introduced new GDA94 based coordinate system that allow converting to GDA2000 systems using either the official 7-parameter transformation or the official NTv2 grid shift files. 

    Grid shift files will not be delivered but a text file indicating where they can be downloaded will be provided.

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  • GDA2000 geographic coordinate systems will be present in MicroStation CONNECT edition Update 12. In addition to this will be introduced new GDA94 based coordinate system that allow converting to GDA2000 systems using either the official 7-parameter transformation or the official NTv2 grid shift files. 

    Grid shift files will not be delivered but a text file indicating where they can be downloaded will be provided.

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  • how will pre CE users  be able to make use of this without CE? would we perhaps be able to import the  files or file from inside CE , somehow I doubt it as it would be 64bit....yet another bullet in the CE gun being held to our heads....

    Lorys

    Started msnt work 1990 - Retired  Nov 2022 ( oh boy am I old )

    But was long time user V8iss10 (8.11.09.919) dabbler CE  update 16 (10.16.00.80) 

    MicroStation user since 1990 Melbourne Australia.
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  • Not knowing too much about it, i dont see why you couldnt replace your gcs library in or add a cusom one in v8i...in theory.

    https://communities.bentley.com/products/geospatial/desktop/w/geospatial_desktop__wiki/6548/--defining-a-custom-coordinate-system

    Regards,

    Mark


    OpenRoads Designer 2022 R3 (10.12)  |  Microstation 2023.1  |  ProjectWise CE 3.4

  • thanks mark but that article requires one to have and use  Bentley map and if it was that easy then Bentley could just  provide  us V8i users with the replacement  file(s)... looks like I have 2 more years to learn Acad, better that than learn CE...  at least everything works in latest acad and doesn't take forever to load and if you have to use ribbon then may as well go over to acad. even if my relationship with Bentley has been almost 30 years.... maybe its finally time to go over and embrace  the dark side...

    Lorys

    Started msnt work 1990 - Retired  Nov 2022 ( oh boy am I old )

    But was long time user V8iss10 (8.11.09.919) dabbler CE  update 16 (10.16.00.80) 

    MicroStation user since 1990 Melbourne Australia.
    click link to PM me 

  • I'm not going to try and defend the complete hash Bentley has made of CE but the latest release U10 does at least have some performance improvements and you can use the classic dialog and toolbars to get closer to V8i. It is the first version of CE that I would consider deploying. I'm also fighting the battle as we use Revit on most of our projects post planning so we get AutoCAD as part of the subscription so why would you pay twice for Microstation? It's not an easy question to answer.

  • You'd only need map if you were creating a GCS. If the files are provided (which they will be, either by Bentley or fellow users) all we need to do is either update the gcs library or add another variable to point to the custom one. Not providing a workflow for GCS update for v8i products is tantamount to discontinuing all v8i support in Australia in the next couple of years, which would be lunacy...

    Although CE has its issues, it is still far superior to acad IMO (and I use acad 2019 regularly).

    Regards,

    Mark


    OpenRoads Designer 2022 R3 (10.12)  |  Microstation 2023.1  |  ProjectWise CE 3.4