Does anyone have a Solid Working Area file that works in CE ie SWA.ma
Ian Lapper said:Solid Working Area
What does SWA.ma do for MicroStation V8?
Regards, Jon Summers LA Solutions
It places a temporary 3d cude that is the size of the solid working area, so you can see if your data is outside it or not. once loaded you then unload it
I'm with Dominic on this one.
In the UK almost ALL infrastructure projects are modeled in AECOsim. A lot of clients do not understand that working in real world coordinates seriously effects the Dynamic View (DV) outputs. We are seeing the DV outputs are incorrectly displayed, even if they are 1% wrong ie missing data or extra data that does not reflect the model they acannot be trusted and it takes a lot of time to review the DV and in the end we have to draw the data in 2d...... thi sis so bad... its criminal, when tools like REVIT just do it in seconds, they are bad news for Bentley.... We are seeing and hearing a lot of these MAJOR clients are getting frustrated with Bentley inability to produce accurate DVs and are NOW ACTIVELY LOOKING at REVIT. We are seeing this on the largest infrastructure project in the UK £15b size project, once this gets hold.... it is seriously BAD new for Bentley.
So her is the thing...
A DGN BIM project will need to collaborate with other BIM authoring tools ie Revit. Revit likes to work at 0,0,0, as well as other BIM tools. so in order to collaborate better, we need to do the same and work at 0,0,0. we should then adopt the GEO Referencing tools to make it appear the model is at real world coordinates.
Not only does this help the project, in AECOSim we are seeing accurate (ish) DVs
the AECOsiom team have released this blog, which is related to SWA and 0,0,0
So something is wrong... its either MS or AECOsim or both.. the SWA is a factor in poor outputs
....... we need better tools if we are to work in real world coordinates and Bentley need to make sure the DVs are 100% accurate
Sadly, as you know, Bentley has form on this. There was a time when virtually all the major London Architectural practices used Microstation. Not any more. REVIT is king and Microstation has been reduced to a sketching tool if it is used at all. All our projects go into Revit post planning.
Ian Lapper said:A lot of clients do not understand that working in real world coordinates seriously effects the Dynamic View (DV) outputs.
I am absolutely not suggesting working in world coordinates, I've failed miserably in my explanation if you've come to that conclusion. It's not good to let uor values exceed 10 digits.
Ian Lapper said:A DGN BIM project will need to collaborate with other BIM authoring tools ie Revit. Revit likes to work at 0,0,0, as well as other BIM tools. so in order to collaborate better, we need to do the same and work at 0,0,0. we should then adopt the GEO Referencing tools to make it appear the model is at real world coordinates.
This is indeed the suggested/recommended workflow.
So.. this is not going away.
I have just opened a 3d DGN that was drawn in real world coordinates. I opened this file in OBD CE6 and I got this message...
So as mentioned in this thread, the Building team seem to think there are issues with the SWA