Why doesn't CE View allow you to 'Copy to Clipboard'? The previous versions did, but the new one doesn't. This is a feature that I used a lot.
I have noted that this was previously discussed by yourself a while ago which resulted in Defect # 354633. This defect has been looked at by our development team and deemed to be Working As Designed. Bentley View is a viewer and not something a user should expect to be performing a Copy&Paste within.
RegardsAndrew BellTechnical SupportBentley Systems
Andrew Bell said:Bentley View is a viewer and not something a user should expect to be performing a Copy&Paste within.
despite of I am not using clipboard copy/paste in Bentley products too often, I strongly disagree with the decision and such justification. To remove already implemented feature from a product, especially when it existed in the past, just makes the product worse and UX worse ... and user more dissapointed, which is something that unfortunately CONNECT Edition from its release is about.
I think clipboard support is not required for "certified for Windows" by Microsoft, but it's expected any Windows application supports it and as Mark noted, viewing software like Adobe Reader supports it ... and it's not only Reader, which makes the justification void.
I can imagine a lot of workflows and situations where to use "copy from View" makes sense. It's not about how Stuart use it, but e.g. when documents are created, to copy graphics inside them is big help. Do you recommend to use complete MicroStation to do it? To capture picture is not alwyas proper solution.
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My impression is also that no-one at Bentley ever works on real projects as then lots of flaws and bugs would become apparent right away and could get rid of before release time.
Hi Jan and Stuart,
Thank you for bringing the workflows and scenario to our attention and the use case for Bentley View CONNECT Edition. I'll discuss this with the team to see how we may enhance it in the future.
Dan Eng said:I'll discuss this with the team to see how we may enhance it in the future
Why do you consider it an enhancement to provide clipboard copy in Bentley View CONNECT, when it was an existing capability of previous versions? From the customer's point of view, it's not an enhancement request. It's a plea to maintain the same functionality as before.
Regards, Jon Summers LA Solutions
this is deliberate it started with retiring the Free old Redline in XM and replacing it bentley view, then steering us to navigator which is not free but has a lot of the old redline features including the copy paste and attach refs for comparison... nothing quite works as well as the old redline software as viewer and markup tool it was great ( and free to clients and subcontractors looking at our drgs)....
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I used the term "enhance" in a sense that we will see what we can do to change and include this in a future update. We can call it a defect. In the meantime, I'll get with the team to discuss this to see about bringing this back in.
Defect 1004801 has been filed on this.
Dan Eng said:Defect 1004801 has been filed on this.
Thanks I think but still don't understand why it was removed.
Also why is this Update 11 when this is only the second release of CE View?
stuartw said:Also why is this Update 11 when this is only the second release of CE View?
my interpretation why it's Update 11 and why I think it's logical: Bentley View can be seen as cut/limited version of MicroStation. Technically both are based on Power Platform (as well as all other products like ORD etc.). Because there is no extra industry specific functionality, it makes sense (at least to me ;-) to use the same naming as for MicroStation.
So my assumption is that Bentley View CE Update 11 is based on the same Power platform (engine) version as MicroStation CE Update 11.
Jan is correct. We kept the Update 11 in Bentley View CONNECT Edition since it is based on the Update 11 PowerPlatform. Since we will be rolling out regular updates of Bentley View CONNECT Edition, we wanted to keep it consistent with MicroStation CONNECT Edition and PowerDraft CONNECT Edition releases.