Measuring landcover area with respect to soil group

Hello Bentley,

I have one query. I want to measure my landcover area with respect to soil group.I already create my soil map and also have landcover map for same location.

Suppose I have 3 acres of woodland if you straight measure in landcover map. But if you measure same area with respect to soilgroup the same area may have 1.5 acre in soil group C, 1 acre in soil grop D and 0.5 in soil group B.

Color red, blue and yellow are soil groups and green is with landcover.

Is there any way to measure these area quickly by loading these two files in microstation  ?

Attached are the files for example.

Thank you so much for your time.

HD

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  • for v8i that is what I use so how I would approach this sorry for the long answer but its a lot of steps to get it right....

    1. you need to make sure in both ref files every area is a real polygon ie shape not complex string etc

    2. you need to have by level settings and each type on its own level name ie all the reds on the same level name...

    Now your  greens could be separate level names would be best  if your only going to use cad to do your analysis ..

    3 best option is to export these dgns  to a comptable format  and import  into a GIS package , if you dont have one then QGIS is  free ...

    unfortunately  you will need to export each level as a separate DXF if you use QGIS...( FYI MapInfo does it better and easier  than QGIS)

    or

    with only cad then....instead of 3  use only xrefs into a holding  file turn off all the greens  polys, and work you way  each of green poly level by level ( manual)

    now 

    4. select the first green polygon and use fence clip copy to capture everything inside the green poly and  copy away from the actual site  over an away to the right or left ..

    after you have clip copied it  you can turn off the fence and  select all of the copied elements and from properties you can identify each coloured area and its individual area  which you can copy paste into excel or notepad  you can even assign which green shape it was ie level name  green1, green2 etc

    repeat  for each green polygon or  dont select any if you just want  totals latter you turn off the xrefs and  select all the copied shapes by their level name and get  totals per level name by the selection and measure area tool by level and  do the same in the xref and the differnce would be  outside the green shapes...

    If you use  item 4

    you first must have the enhanced fence copy in the user preferences turn on so shapes self heal and stay shapes with clip copy....

    The entire process does work but its very tedious and easy to make mistakes when your getting tired which you will... as its all manual 

    To sum up this is so much easier in a real GIS like map info which will import all your dgns as dgn with levels and shapes ( real polygons only)  and  give you the answer  for each green shape  as a areas inside or contained by... this is a  very simple sql query  and it ends up in a table to export or copy to excel etc.. from what you have shown this would take me less than 30 mins or any  gis operator (if the data was good...)

    Lorys

    Started msnt work 1990 - Retired  Nov 2022 ( oh boy am I old )

    But was long time user V8iss10 (8.11.09.919) dabbler CE  update 16 (10.16.00.80) 

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  • this is so much easier in a real GIS like map info

    Isn't Bentley Map a 'real GIS'?  And MicroStation compatible? 

     
    Regards, Jon Summers
    LA Solutions

  • Isn't Bentley Map a 'real GIS'?

    Well ... that's questionable. And not only because it's not very clear what "the real GIS" is ;-)

    Bentley would like to convice users that Bentley Map is GIS, but GIS is usually described using features like data topology cleaning and validation, analysis (both topology and non graphic data) and data visualization (thematic mapping). But these are areas where Bentley Map is very weak and is defeated by competitors easily. Some operations are not supported at all, and many others use - because of development history - different technology and often there is a problem "yes, you can do it, but not with (for example) XFM data".

    Where Bentley Map is pretty good is "technical mapping / GIS", because power platform (MicroStation engine) offers huge amount of tools and features not typically available in "real GIS products".

    Regards,

      Jan

  • this is so much easier in a real GIS like map info

    Isn't Bentley Map a 'real GIS'?  And MicroStation compatible? 

    After having used, MapInfo, ESRI and Geographics and now starting to use QGIS... Bentley  map is awful and lacks a lot of functions  that packages like Mapinfo come as default and MapInfo is easier to learn and far more help both from the provider and the web.. and  its a heck of a lot  cheaper.. 

    But I wasnt  trying to get into my gis is better than yours

    What I meant in my original post was the poster should use an actual GIS program not Microstation as  GIS..  but if you can get the database  interaction going you can get mstn with a bit of effort to do basic gis ... before gis this is what mstn was used a lot  for just that...  ie  mapping utilities etc but you needed some third party interfacing... when I used to work for water authority we used  an intergraph set up which  used mstn and  "Frame" in the late 80s to mid 90s to do GIS and had big databases linked..slow but it worked with sql too..

    Lorys

    Started msnt work 1990 - Retired  Nov 2022 ( oh boy am I old )

    But was long time user V8iss10 (8.11.09.919) dabbler CE  update 16 (10.16.00.80) 

    MicroStation user since 1990 Melbourne Australia.
    click link to PM me 

  • I wasnt  trying to get into my gis is better than yours

    I mentioned Bentley Map because of its compatibility with MicroStation.  With other GIS implementations the OP will have to export/import to the GIS. 

     
    Regards, Jon Summers
    LA Solutions

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