Hello Bentley,
I have one query. I want to measure my landcover area with respect to soil group.I already create my soil map and also have landcover map for same location.
Suppose I have 3 acres of woodland if you straight measure in landcover map. But if you measure same area with respect to soilgroup the same area may have 1.5 acre in soil group C, 1 acre in soil grop D and 0.5 in soil group B.
Color red, blue and yellow are soil groups and green is with landcover.
Is there any way to measure these area quickly by loading these two files in microstation?
Attached are the files for example.
Thank you so much for your time.
HD
for v8i that is what I use so how I would approach this sorry for the long answer but its a lot of steps to get it right....
1. you need to make sure in both ref files every area is a real polygon ie shape not complex string etc
2. you need to have by level settings and each type on its own level name ie all the reds on the same level name...
Now your greens could be separate level names would be best if your only going to use cad to do your analysis ..
3 best option is to export these dgns to a comptable format and import into a GIS package , if you dont have one then QGIS is free ...
unfortunately you will need to export each level as a separate DXF if you use QGIS...( FYI MapInfo does it better and easier than QGIS)
or
with only cad then....instead of 3 use only xrefs into a holding file turn off all the greens polys, and work you way each of green poly level by level ( manual)
now
4. select the first green polygon and use fence clip copy to capture everything inside the green poly and copy away from the actual site over an away to the right or left ..
after you have clip copied it you can turn off the fence and select all of the copied elements and from properties you can identify each coloured area and its individual area which you can copy paste into excel or notepad you can even assign which green shape it was ie level name green1, green2 etc
repeat for each green polygon or dont select any if you just want totals latter you turn off the xrefs and select all the copied shapes by their level name and get totals per level name by the selection and measure area tool by level and do the same in the xref and the differnce would be outside the green shapes...
If you use item 4
you first must have the enhanced fence copy in the user preferences turn on so shapes self heal and stay shapes with clip copy....
The entire process does work but its very tedious and easy to make mistakes when your getting tired which you will... as its all manual
To sum up this is so much easier in a real GIS like map info which will import all your dgns as dgn with levels and shapes ( real polygons only) and give you the answer for each green shape as a areas inside or contained by... this is a very simple sql query and it ends up in a table to export or copy to excel etc.. from what you have shown this would take me less than 30 mins or any gis operator (if the data was good...)
Lorys
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Lorys said:this is so much easier in a real GIS like map info
Isn't Bentley Map a 'real GIS'? And MicroStation compatible?
Regards, Jon Summers LA Solutions
Jon Summers said:Isn't Bentley Map a 'real GIS'?
Well ... that's questionable. And not only because it's not very clear what "the real GIS" is ;-)
Bentley would like to convice users that Bentley Map is GIS, but GIS is usually described using features like data topology cleaning and validation, analysis (both topology and non graphic data) and data visualization (thematic mapping). But these are areas where Bentley Map is very weak and is defeated by competitors easily. Some operations are not supported at all, and many others use - because of development history - different technology and often there is a problem "yes, you can do it, but not with (for example) XFM data".
Where Bentley Map is pretty good is "technical mapping / GIS", because power platform (MicroStation engine) offers huge amount of tools and features not typically available in "real GIS products".
Regards,
Jan
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Jon Summers said:
this is so much easier in a real GIS like map info
After having used, MapInfo, ESRI and Geographics and now starting to use QGIS... Bentley map is awful and lacks a lot of functions that packages like Mapinfo come as default and MapInfo is easier to learn and far more help both from the provider and the web.. and its a heck of a lot cheaper..
But I wasnt trying to get into my gis is better than yours
What I meant in my original post was the poster should use an actual GIS program not Microstation as GIS.. but if you can get the database interaction going you can get mstn with a bit of effort to do basic gis ... before gis this is what mstn was used a lot for just that... ie mapping utilities etc but you needed some third party interfacing... when I used to work for water authority we used an intergraph set up which used mstn and "Frame" in the late 80s to mid 90s to do GIS and had big databases linked..slow but it worked with sql too..
Lorys said: I wasnt trying to get into my gis is better than yours
I mentioned Bentley Map because of its compatibility with MicroStation. With other GIS implementations the OP will have to export/import to the GIS.