Just installed this morning. Hating the raster file handling, it's worse. I just attached several, they don't display until a manipulation like level on/off, ras display is used.
Then a little text editing, once you complete a single edit text command reverts to Default Tool. Single Click set to Locked in preferences.
We're just getting started with this dog, guess I'll go back to keeping a list and filing service tickets when I have time.
Anyone else feel like an unpaid beta tester?
Also crashed once today, just shut down, no error, no nothin.
My general impression is that it feels a bit more responsive and I like the new V8i mode implementation. However I see Bentley have just posted a blog with opening times. It seems (If I read it correctly) that unless you have a massive data set then V8i is still faster. IMO Connect should be faster in all situations.
Duncan Macdonald said:unless you have a massive data set then V8i is still faster
This Bentley blog discusses the DGN file opening times. I've reproduced their table and added a column that shows the performance of CONNECT compared with V8i...
Element Count
FO Time (in sec) CE
FO Time V8i (in sec)
CONNECT vs V8i (below 100% means slower)
83.6 MB
512500 (X)
8
7
88%
165 MB
1025000 (2X)
16
13
82%
330 MB
2050000 (4X)
35
27
77%
662 MB
4100000 (8X)
90
58
65%
827 MB
5125000 (10X)
140
120
86%
993 MB
6150000 (12X)
170
440
259%
1.12 GB
7210000 (14X)
380
850
224%
1.29 GB
8200000 (16X)
390
900
230%
1.45 GB
9227000 (18X)
620
1400
226%
1.61 GB
10250000 (20X)
880
2000
228%
Apparently, their conclusion is that we should all work with files greater than 800MB, because then we'll have a faster experience using CONNECT than with V8i! Most of us, most of the time, are working with files well below 800MB, so we're stuck with a slower experience.
Regards, Jon Summers LA Solutions
We don't have data sets anywhere near the size that would see the speed benefits. In another blog post
https://communities.bentley.com/products/microstation/b/microstation_blog/posts/time-for-change-help-your-colleagues-switch-to-microstation-connect-edition-1885868783
which reads to me as somewhat desperate. The 'advantages' of Connect are listed. My comments on them below
My strategy at the moment is to put new users onto Connect as they don't know what they are missing. i'm trying to move new projects to Connect but until I physically remove V8i from users, the experienced users will go back to V8i as it's faster and more stable and they know the interface. CE13 seems to be an improvement but there is still away to go IMO to persuade users that CE is a better option..
I just looked at our main project drive... Our largest dgn file is 852 KB. Our median file size is about 50 KB.
So they even admit that, for those of working with smaller files, CONNECT is NOT the optimal program. Not a good look, if they want to convince us that CONNECT is an improvement.
And I agree with Duncan - a lot of these "Advantages" are things that just do not apply to the work we do. The sheet management looks really good, but what I've seen of it, it isn't robust enough to be actually useful.
MaryB
Microstation 08.11.09.919Power GeoPak 08.11.09.918Power InRoads 08.11.09.918
I just did some benchmarking of my own with 3 small Civil DGNs and i'm seeing very good session open times. This is with a simple workspace though (i7 laptop, SSD, 32Gb RAM, Win10)
7Mb DGN (2 Design Models - 4 Refs each)
v8i SS10 = 24s
CE U13 = 17s
3.2Mb DGN (2 Design Models - 2 Refs each)
v8i SS10 = 19s
1.4Mb (2 Design Models + 15 Drawing models)
v8i SS10 = 21s
CE 13 = 17s
CE U13 seems to have a constant 17 secs session open time regardless of file size for small files, while v8i varies depending on data set. Just my experiences so far, may be a very different case for other types of models and data combinations...
Regards,
Mark
OpenRoads Designer 2021 R2 (10.10) | Microstation CE Update 16.3 | ProjectWise CE 3.4
That being said - SS10 seem to open slower than SS4 - an inherent CONNECT Licensing connection delay maybe?