Just installed this morning. Hating the raster file handling, it's worse. I just attached several, they don't display until a manipulation like level on/off, ras display is used.
Then a little text editing, once you complete a single edit text command reverts to Default Tool. Single Click set to Locked in preferences.
We're just getting started with this dog, guess I'll go back to keeping a list and filing service tickets when I have time.
Anyone else feel like an unpaid beta tester?
Also crashed once today, just shut down, no error, no nothin.
My general impression is that it feels a bit more responsive and I like the new V8i mode implementation. However I see Bentley have just posted a blog with opening times. It seems (If I read it correctly) that unless you have a massive data set then V8i is still faster. IMO Connect should be faster in all situations.
Duncan Macdonald said:unless you have a massive data set then V8i is still faster
This Bentley blog discusses the DGN file opening times. I've reproduced their table and added a column that shows the performance of CONNECT compared with V8i...
FO Time (in sec) CE
FO Time V8i (in sec)
CONNECT vs V8i (below 100% means slower)
Apparently, their conclusion is that we should all work with files greater than 800MB, because then we'll have a faster experience using CONNECT than with V8i! Most of us, most of the time, are working with files well below 800MB, so we're stuck with a slower experience.
Regards, Jon Summers LA Solutions
We don't have data sets anywhere near the size that would see the speed benefits. In another blog post
which reads to me as somewhat desperate. The 'advantages' of Connect are listed. My comments on them below
My strategy at the moment is to put new users onto Connect as they don't know what they are missing. i'm trying to move new projects to Connect but until I physically remove V8i from users, the experienced users will go back to V8i as it's faster and more stable and they know the interface. CE13 seems to be an improvement but there is still away to go IMO to persuade users that CE is a better option..
I just looked at our main project drive... Our largest dgn file is 852 KB. Our median file size is about 50 KB.
So they even admit that, for those of working with smaller files, CONNECT is NOT the optimal program. Not a good look, if they want to convince us that CONNECT is an improvement.
And I agree with Duncan - a lot of these "Advantages" are things that just do not apply to the work we do. The sheet management looks really good, but what I've seen of it, it isn't robust enough to be actually useful.
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It would be good to understand what the curve looks like with the most of the data being loaded as reference attachments. Most of the data we load are in Refs and not the active file. We tend to open relatively small files with a lot of Refs for context.
I would say that a say 20% difference in speed over the four years that CE has been out would be easily offset by hardware upgrades.
I wonder why the 600MB mark takes such a hit and whether if this can be fixed.
I would be more worried about performance when switching between models/files.
Jon Summers said:This Bentley blog discusses the DGN file opening times
And these tests were done on a pc with 64GB RAM!! I certainly don't have that much RAM and I'm guessing that a lot of other users don't too!
Their test is also performed using an Intel Xeon processor.
I have a pretty robust PC with an Intel Core i7 processor & 32gb of RAM and opening small files is definitely slower in CONNECT. The more painful part is getting to the backstage. There is significant delay clciking <File to open a new file. I have opted to start using CTRL +O because there is no real delay with that method. I am with others who open relatively small size files. Opening larger size files may be important with ORD, but for CONNECT alone it does nothing.
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I use the Quick Access Toolbar and I added close to it. That saves two trips to the backstage.
Good tip. I just have not been able to use CONNECT since the major project I am working on needs to keep moving in Power InRoads SS2. I have not had time to customize CONNECT yet, not to mention we are still on CONNECT U11.
mwlong said:Their test is also performed using an Intel Xeon processor.
They did not mention what type of hard drive. I know that there have been quite of few of them using SSD drives. We are still on the old-fashioned physical drives.
The backstage in U13 does seem much faster and the change workset dialog is much more responsive.