r13 Early Impressions

Just installed this morning. Hating the raster file handling, it's worse. I just attached several, they don't display until a manipulation like level on/off, ras display is used.

Then a little text editing, once you complete a single edit text command reverts to Default Tool. Single Click set to Locked in preferences.

We're just getting started with this dog, guess I'll go back to keeping a list and filing service tickets when I have time.

Anyone else feel like an unpaid beta tester?

Also crashed once today, just shut down, no error, no nothin.

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  • My general impression is that it feels a bit more responsive and I like the new V8i mode implementation. However I see Bentley have just posted a blog with opening times. It seems (If I read it correctly) that unless you have a massive data set then V8i is still faster. IMO Connect should be faster in all situations. 

  • unless you have a massive data set then V8i is still faster

    This Bentley blog discusses the DGN file opening times.  I've reproduced their table and added a column that shows the performance of CONNECT compared with V8i...

    Element Count

    FO Time (in sec) CE

    FO Time V8i (in sec)

    CONNECT vs V8i (below 100% means slower)

    83.6 MB

    512500 (X)

    8

    7

    88%

    165 MB

    1025000 (2X)

    16

    13

    82%

    330 MB

    2050000 (4X)

    35

    27

    77%

    662 MB

    4100000 (8X)

    90

    58

    65%

    827 MB

    5125000 (10X)

    140

    120

    86%

    993 MB

    6150000 (12X)

    170

    440

    259%

    1.12 GB

    7210000 (14X)

    380

    850

    224%

    1.29 GB

    8200000 (16X)

    390

    900

    230%

    1.45 GB

    9227000 (18X)

    620

    1400

    226%

    1.61 GB

    10250000 (20X)

    880

    2000

    228%

    Apparently, their conclusion is that we should all work with files greater than 800MB, because then we'll have a faster experience using CONNECT than with V8i!  Most of us, most of the time, are working with files well below 800MB, so we're stuck with a slower experience.

     
    Regards, Jon Summers
    LA Solutions

  • This Bentley blog discusses the DGN file opening times

    And these tests were done on a pc with 64GB RAM!! I certainly don't have that much RAM and I'm guessing that a lot of other users don't too!

  • Their test is also performed using an Intel Xeon processor.

    I have a pretty robust PC with an Intel Core i7 processor & 32gb of RAM and opening small files is definitely slower in CONNECT. The more painful part is getting to the backstage. There is significant delay clciking <File to open a new file. I have opted to start using CTRL +O because there is no real delay with that method. I am with others who open relatively small size files. Opening larger size files may be important with ORD, but for CONNECT alone it does nothing.

    Microstation CONNECT - 10.17.2.61

    ORD - 2021 R1 10.10.1.3

    ORD 2022 R1.1 - 10.11.3.2

    ORD 2022 R3 -  10.12.2.4

    Microstation v8i SS 10 - 08.11.09.919

    Power InRoads v8i - 08.11.09.615

    ProjectWise - 10.0.3.453

  • I use the Quick Access Toolbar and I added close to it. That saves two trips to the backstage.

      

  • i'm trying to move new projects to Connect but until I physically remove V8i from users, the experienced users will go back to V8i as it's faster and more stable

    The entire purpose of being in business is to make a profit.  If CE is less profitable than V8i, why try to get people to change?

    --Robert

  • Good tip. I just have not been able to use CONNECT since the major project I am working on needs to keep moving in Power InRoads SS2. I have not had time to customize CONNECT yet, not to mention we are still on CONNECT U11.

    Microstation CONNECT - 10.17.2.61

    ORD - 2021 R1 10.10.1.3

    ORD 2022 R1.1 - 10.11.3.2

    ORD 2022 R3 -  10.12.2.4

    Microstation v8i SS 10 - 08.11.09.919

    Power InRoads v8i - 08.11.09.615

    ProjectWise - 10.0.3.453

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  • Good tip. I just have not been able to use CONNECT since the major project I am working on needs to keep moving in Power InRoads SS2. I have not had time to customize CONNECT yet, not to mention we are still on CONNECT U11.

    Microstation CONNECT - 10.17.2.61

    ORD - 2021 R1 10.10.1.3

    ORD 2022 R1.1 - 10.11.3.2

    ORD 2022 R3 -  10.12.2.4

    Microstation v8i SS 10 - 08.11.09.919

    Power InRoads v8i - 08.11.09.615

    ProjectWise - 10.0.3.453

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