I've created an Item Type in CE 13 with both Text, Integers and Points properties.
Attached it to a cell.
Placed the cell in a file.
Everything in CE 13.
If I open that file in V8i SS4 I can view the item type data using Element Information but only Integers, Number and Point properties are editable.
I would think text would be the least complicated.
The concept of Item Types was introduced into MicroStation CONNECT Edition as a replacement to Tag Sets. You may be able to view this information in V8i but would not be able to make any modifications as it is not backwards compatible.
https://communities.bentley.com/products/microstation/f/microstation-forum/147140/connect-edition---backwards-compatibility-with-select-series/447738#447738
https://communities.bentley.com/products/microstation/w/microstation__wiki/23674/microstation-connect-edition-frequently-asked-questions
RegardsAndrew BellTechnical SupportBentley Systems
Andrew Bell said:The concept of Item Types was introduced into MicroStation CONNECT Edition as a replacement to Tag Sets
Well, officialy yes and it's true that Item Types offer a lot of very nice features, but from users' perspective it's not true at all, especially from usability perspective (which is far more important than whether it's based on better technology or not).
With Tags and Tagset, it's "point and click" operation to attach tag with its value displayed. Item Types requires to define label cell and to store it in DGNLIB, which is 100x times longer and more complicated workflow. No way to use Item Types in this way. And with problem with Item Types > Labels syncrhonization in U13 and U13.1, Item Types now look not very reliable for some users.
Regards,
Jan
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Jan Ĺ legr said:with problem with Item Types > Labels syncrhonization in U13 and U13.1, Item Types now look not very reliable
It's been unreliable for longer than that! I noted that text fields in cells (e.g. MIcroStation labels) do not update consistently some time ago. Paul Connelly acknowledged that bug. Robert Hook supplied a defect no. 985212.
Jan Ĺ legr said: it's true that Item Types offer a lot of very nice features, but from users' perspective it's not true at all, especially from usability perspective (which is far more important than whether it's based on better technology or not)
Which is why we invented AreaAnnotator and other members of the TagWorks family. They make it simple to use Item Types and work with specific element types (e.g. area features).
Jan Ĺ legr said:an explanation of this issue requires a good knowledge of EC Framework
Which you clearly have acquired through years of study and exploration! But why can't Bentley Systems explain their core ideas? The EC Framework is great technology: why aren't they trumpeting it to the world? Samir Haque promised a white paper over a year ago, but nothing materialised.
Regards, Jon Summers LA Solutions
Hi Jon Summers,
Jon Summers said: I noted that text fields in cells (e.g. MIcroStation labels) do not update consistently some time ago. Paul Connelly acknowledged that bug. Robert Hook supplied a defect no. 985212.
Although not specifically referenced in the MSCE U13 Resolved Issues - both Defect 985212 (Text fields in cells not updating) and related Defect 1040688 (DependencyManager.ProcessAffected not working) should both now be fully addressed in the MSCE U13 release. I suggest to confirm if any remaining issues are still present and in need to be addressed.
HTH,BobREF: Defect 985212 or Defect 1040688