Is possible (how to) export model to 2D with solid to DWG - or any 2D (finaly maybe converted to DWG)?
I mean. For modeling I'm using ie. "FIlled hidden line". I see this:
If print from microstation, I use simillar setup and I get this:
Same.
But I need export files to DWG (2D). There I use export over "Visible edge" (+ some workflow in (my case) BricsCAD - to coloring etc...). But finaly I get just this:
Mean 2D lines, full + hidden.
But I want get also filled area / hatched. Is it possible? Thank you.
Model file:
test_export.dgn
The OP has expressed his question badly. Let me restate his question using MicroStation terminology.
His 3D DGN model has two solid elements that are cubes: one red, one blue. The blue cube partially obscures the red cube in the chosen view. With a Filled Hidden Line view setting he sees what his screenshot shows: the hidden edge of the red cube is shown dashed.
When he prints that view using MicroStation, the print shows what he sees in the MicroStation view. His questions are:
AutoCAD must show the same result as MicroStation.
I can't answer his question: I'm not a visualiser and don't have AutoCAD.
Regards, Jon Summers LA Solutions
Jon Summers said:What version (e.g. v10.x.y.z) of MicroStation are you using?
(because TriCAD and for client not last version - until last days) v8 SS3/SS4 08.11.09.459 - but if it's problem just in version v8, we can upgrade to Connect.
Jon Summers said:What version of DWG do you want to create?
doesn't matter, most client prefer 2004 or 2009, if s 2013 or another needed we can use it.
Jon Summers said:What version of AutoCAD are you using?
as I write BricsCad - we preferd, but must have one Revit for export / import, so if is AutoCad needed, we can under subscription-
Jon Summers said:Can you post a sample DGN file that will let us analyse your data?
I send - first message - call it test_export.dgn.
Anyway, here you can download.
There is (we need 2D DWG):
"test_export -get.dwg" - what I get after export to hln and than converting to DWG.
"test_export -want.dwg" - what I want - solid/hatched (manually after export) to look as in microstation.
If you were to do the "filling" in Microstation by creating an "extra" hatched element, the same as it would be in AutoCAD, it would probably translate correctly. It's extra work that SHOULD be unneccesary, but DWG format is constrained by DWG limitations. People working in DWG natively don't think they are limited, so they work with those limitations efficiently. Working in a less limited software and trying to go to a more limited format just doesn't work as well.
When I KNOW I am going to be delivering in DWG, I work in DWG (Since MicroStation can do that). I'm bound by all the DWG limitations, but that way I get less frustrated trying to turn a DGN into something it isn't.
MaryB
Power GeoPak 08.11.09.918Power InRoads 08.11.09.918OpenRoads Designer 2021 R2
Absolutely correct Mary.. people must understand that Fills are not hatches in microstation but in acad there are no fills just dense hatching.. once upon a time microstation could not do fills it only did dense hatches... just like acad, but acad never seemed to change this.. so before do your fills you have to think if it will later be in acad so don't use fills or post process your files and change your fills to none and replace with hatches..
One trick I'm trialing is to create a level called acad hatch and have it set to off and put fills in my microstation drawing on their level and then create hatching say 45 deg and depending on scale 0.1 spacing and turn it off this would let the end user in acad turn it back on or a script for batch processor to turn it on later in microstation after export to acad...
this shouldn't make my files much bigger as they are associated hatch patterning and not dropped
Lorys
Started msnt work 1990 - Retired Nov 2022 ( oh boy am I old )
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I understand you, all of you wrote. I just want ask if, is possible printe "filled" PDF from microstation, also as DWG (when he required), with same look to investor or not - answer is not.
Yes, correct. I thinked on that, but it's possible for couple of objects, but not for whole project. Also we using ad-on VenturisIT - which create this object - it's not directly microstation. But thank you.
Juraj Matel said:we using ad-on VenturisIT - which create this object
That's a vital piece of information. Next time you post, state what products you are using.
Most people on this Forum don't use VenturisIT. It's hard to answer questions about a product we don't use, particularly such arcane details as whether it can make a PDF and a DWG look the same.
Juraj Matel said:is possible printe "filled" PDF from microstation, also as DWG
Others here have explained: MicroStation has better capability for filled shapes than AutoCAD. You can't make a DWG do something that it's not designed to achieve. I think Mary's suggestion, to use MicroStation in DWG mode, is helpful. MicroStation won't create a filled shape if DWG doesn't support that. However, that's affected by your use of VenturisIT — can you use that product with MicroStation in DWG mode?