CE- Sheet Index

Our firm has been trying to setup Sheet Indexing and we are experiencing some issues. When we open the Explorer dialog and go to the Sheet Index Tab the necessary icons are not available.

First image shows our Sheet Index tab. Right-clicking on the 1 icon that is there brings up Refresh (greyed out with a check mark) and Show All. Selecting Show All does nothing. The second shot shows what icons should be available.

A colleague discovered that the Personl.explorer-settings,xml, which is pointed to by a config variable has different values than the one supplied with the training materials. He edited the .xml file and was able to get the icons to appear, however the icons are all greyed out.

He did have post on the ORD forums, but this is a Microstation issue. https://communities.bentley.com/products/road___site_design/f/geopak-inroads-mx-openroads-forum/190394/sheet-index-toolbar-missing-icons

While it is good that he was able to get the icons to appear WE SHOULD NOT NEED TO MODIFY .XML FILES!!!!!

Also, going into the Explorer Settings dialog through the backstage shows only 1 option, to make the Sheet Index Tab visible in Explorer. 

This post https://communities.bentley.com/products/betas/openroadsdesignereap/f/openroads-designer-early-access-forum/130787/sheet-index states that you only get the icon when you enable the Edit Sheet Index option. Where do you go to enable the Edit Sheet Index option.

I do have a file where I created a sheet model and I had Add to "Sheet Index" checked on. When I look at the properties of the Sheet Model under the "Sheet" tab "Sheet Index" value shows Not in Sheet Index (greyed out). Also right-clicking on the sheet model in the Models dialog box I see to option relating to Sheet Indexing. 1 is Remove from Sheet Index 2 is Navigate to Sheet Index. Both a greyed out.

I did look at this through an out-of-the-box install of Microstation using the Trianing Material workspace/Workset. Both the Training & my customized configurations for the variable MS_EXPLORER_SETTINGS are pointing to the same .xml file (this would be the one a colleague modified on his PC), but the Sheet Indexing icons appear in the Training workspace.

So is this controlled by a .dgnlib somewhere? I am at a loss trying to track this problem down.

Microstation CONNECT Edition Update 13 - Version 10.13.01.01

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  • As I continue to work on this issue I may have come to the conclusion that this is a ProjectWise issue. I do have some Workspaces/Worksets outside of ProjectWise for some legacy projects that were started in v8i. We decided to use CONNECT for drafting so users could become accustom to the new software format. I opened those files and I see that the Sheet Indexing seems to be functioning.

    I am going to switch over to the ProjectWise forum for this issue as that seems to be the root now.

    Microstation CONNECT - 10.17.2.61

    ORD - 2021 R1 10.10.1.3

    ORD 2022 R1.1 - 10.11.3.2

    ORD 2022 R3 -  10.12.2.4

    Microstation v8i SS 10 - 08.11.09.919

    Power InRoads v8i - 08.11.09.615

    ProjectWise - 10.0.3.453

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  • As I continue to work on this issue I may have come to the conclusion that this is a ProjectWise issue. I do have some Workspaces/Worksets outside of ProjectWise for some legacy projects that were started in v8i. We decided to use CONNECT for drafting so users could become accustom to the new software format. I opened those files and I see that the Sheet Indexing seems to be functioning.

    I am going to switch over to the ProjectWise forum for this issue as that seems to be the root now.

    Microstation CONNECT - 10.17.2.61

    ORD - 2021 R1 10.10.1.3

    ORD 2022 R1.1 - 10.11.3.2

    ORD 2022 R3 -  10.12.2.4

    Microstation v8i SS 10 - 08.11.09.919

    Power InRoads v8i - 08.11.09.615

    ProjectWise - 10.0.3.453

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  • HI there.

    I have been looking at this as well. I found the solution for me in a microstation forum post:

    The easiest way to fix this is to delete the existing .dgnws file. It will automatically be recreated with the proper internal name the next time the software is opened.

    You can find this file in the folder C:\ProgramData\Bentley\OpenRoads Designer CONNECT 10.00.01\Configuration\WorkSpaces\OpenRoads - Metric\Worksets\.

    worked for me at least. The problem seems to be a mismatch between the work-set name and sheet index name

  • Thanks for the reply. I tried your suggestion, but it did not work. If I delete my .dgnws file & open a file the same .dgnws file loads. My configuration points to the correct PW location, but a new one is not created. I've also deleted all of my local files with the same result.

    Microstation CONNECT - 10.17.2.61

    ORD - 2021 R1 10.10.1.3

    ORD 2022 R1.1 - 10.11.3.2

    ORD 2022 R3 -  10.12.2.4

    Microstation v8i SS 10 - 08.11.09.919

    Power InRoads v8i - 08.11.09.615

    ProjectWise - 10.0.3.453

  • At the risk of stating the obvious, is a restart required to generate a new dgnws file?

    Does the index name match your current workset name?

  • A PC restart?

    After deleting the .dgnws file I did restart Microstation. Maybe this would be recreated outside of ProjectWise?

    The name of the .dgnws file does match the name of my project configuration (Design.cfg & Design.dgnws). However, the sheet index header shows PennDOT_Design. I have no idea where it picks up that name. We had someone from Bentley set up our PW enviroment. The workspace files were established outside of PW by the DOT. I am not sure what process they used to populate PW, but I am pretty sure they used the import function.

    I believe the .dgnws file either became corrupted or maybe it was renamed at some point. I did open Microstation outside of PW and created a secondary workset where I created a new Design.cfg & a new Design.dgnws file. I renamed my original .dgnws file and used my new Design.dgnws file and everything seems to work although I reset the original .dgnws file.

    I know that the .dgnws file stores the sheet index information and linksets. Is there anything else that is stored in there. Am I able to replace the original .dgnws file with my new one without breaking anything else?

    Microstation CONNECT - 10.17.2.61

    ORD - 2021 R1 10.10.1.3

    ORD 2022 R1.1 - 10.11.3.2

    ORD 2022 R3 -  10.12.2.4

    Microstation v8i SS 10 - 08.11.09.919

    Power InRoads v8i - 08.11.09.615

    ProjectWise - 10.0.3.453

  • How are you making the Workset?  There seems to be a connection made from the workset template used and the name given in the creation step.  We've also learned the directory location of the .dgnws needs to have modify access to prevent the graying out.  

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