Re: Text Nodes / Notes

Roy Gallier — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 23:45:04 GMT

I can't seem to find where I posted this file (maybe just sent it to support).

Re: Text Nodes / Notes

Roy Gallier — Thu, 28 May 2009 23:51:45 GMT

John Frampton:
from this thread
Hi Roy,

F. is because the TX & TH of the element is not TXT Style times the Annotation Scale but more of values from the TXT Style and yes apply annotation scale to me.  I think it is a small difference but to store or show the calculated value would be wrong.  Maybe we could add the calculated value as a tool tip.

I am guessing that in G. you are referring to the Leroy lettering guides, but looking at them there is no common multiplier.  So I am not sure exactly what you are after with this item.  Would you take a minute to lay out a small chart or diagram as to how this would work?

"The Leroy template sizes are 60, 80, 100, 120, 140, 175, 200, 240, 290, 350, 425, and 500 with the height of the letters indicated in thousandths of an inch."

Thanks much,
~john.

John,

Much of what I was needing is already working in V8i Text & Dimension Styles in that many settings are now relative to TH. Mainly what I would like to do is create one Style for Leroy (1/1000 th of an inch of printed output). Then if I had a "Text Size modifier" which would be applied as a scale factor to the Style, I could place text at a 80 Leroy by choosing Style "Leroy" with a "Text Size modifier" of 80. As it is now I would need a seperate Style for 80 Leroy, 100 Leroy, & 120 Leroy.

Thanks - Roy

Re: Text Nodes / Notes

Sunand Sandurkar — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:56:56 GMT

Hi Roy,

These are great suggestions. Thanks for spending the time to think about these tools and coming up with suggestions for consolidation. I will mention your comments to our Product Designer.

Thanks,

Sunand Sandurkar

Re: Text Nodes / Notes

Roy Gallier — Sun, 08 Mar 2009 20:16:50 GMT

Edited previous post to add 1.7 & insert new 2.6

Bentley, don't take my long winded CRs at disappointment; I think you guys do a great job! These are just some of my ideas (just need to jot them down); I was just looking for feedback.

Thanks all,

Roy

Re: Text Nodes / Notes

Roy Gallier — Sun, 08 Mar 2009 04:10:53 GMT

1.0. Text Nodes
1.1. Text Background Color & display status (set from tool settings)
1.2. Text Frame Color & Type like Place Note
1.3. Text Horizontal Justification icon view like Dimension Styles Notes section

Icons Dynamic, Left, Center, Right, Full

1.4. Text Vertical Justification graphical UI like the Note Leader Vertical Location

Top                                         ■
Middle                                   ● Xxxx Yyyyy
Bottom                                  ■
Descender                             ▄▄▄▄

1.5. Node Edit About settings graphical UI like the Note Leader Vertical Location

Location                                Left                  Center                Right
Margin                                   ▀▀▀                   ▀▀▀                  ▀▀▀
First                                        ● Xx                      ●                      Yy ●
Middle                                   ●Xxxx                     ●                  Yyyyy●
Last                                        ● Xx                      ●                      Yy ●
Margin                                   ▄▄▄                   ▄▄▄                  ▄▄▄

Add                                        Dynamic Toggle
                                                1st Data Point at Edit About
                                                Drag mouse up-down-left-right & proximity show Dynamic Text Location
                                                2nd Data Point to fix Text Node location

1.6. View Independent

Fix Toggle
Make it work using the insertion/Edit About point not like the CURRENT Text Node one that uses the text Justification point!!

1.7. Plan Rotation

Create new automatic texr rotation also based upon view. This rotation would force the text angle relative to the view to filp 180º if it exceeds a maximum vertical angle of 100º (controlled via. config.). In this case text which falls between 100º & 280º would be rotated 180º (Active Angle - 180) to be according to typical plan conventions.

2. Note/Callout
2.1. Text Background Fill Color & display status
2.2. Text Rotation Horizontal, Vertical, Inline, Active Angle
2.3. Horizontal Attachment add Center (mainly for Circle Text Frame)
2.4. Edit About

Add Setting Leader
This will fix the problem if an associated leader's terminator crosses from left to right or vice versa

2.5. View Independent

Add Toggle & make it work using the insertion/Edit About point not like the CURRENT Text Node one that uses the text Justification point!!

2.6. Plan Rotation

Create new automatic texr rotation also based upon view. This rotation would force the text angle relative to the view to filp 180º if it exceeds a maximum vertical angle of 100º (controlled via. config.). In this case text which falls between 100º & 280º would be rotated 180º (Active Angle - 180) to be according to typical plan conventions.

2.7. Add a Full Justification setting
2.8. Leader Vertical Location

Add                                        First Line Overline
                                                First Line Underline
First Overline                        ▀▀▀                                              ▀▀▀
First Top                                ■                                                          ■
First Middle                           ● Xx                                                Yy ●
First Underline                      ▄▄▄                                              ▄▄▄

Middle                                   ●Xxxx                                          Yyyyy●

Last Middle                          ● Xx                                                  Yy ●
Last Bottom                         ■                                                           ■
Last Underline                      ▄▄▄                                              ▄▄▄

Add                                        Dynamic Toggle
                                                Requires Start At: Text)
                                                1st Data Point at Leader
                                                Drag mouse up-down-left-right & proximity show Dynamic Leaders
                                                2nd Data Point to fix note location
                                                3rd...Nth vertex with Reset to place Terminator

2.9. Add a View Independent toggle (that works using the insertion/Edit About point not like the CURRENT Text Node one that uses the text Justification point)