MicroStation on Linux

Marcos Muñoz said:

if somebody know how install Microstation connect edition in Linux

As far as I know, the only platform on which MicroStation works is Windows.

A long time ago, MicroStation ran on a vast range of operating systems, including several flavours of UNIX (but that was before LINUX was born).  See the History of MicroStation.

We started with Microstation, partially because it supported our MacIntosh platform.  Thankfully we mostly transitioned to Windows prior to Bentley dropping support for the other platforms.  One of the issues is that Bentley now relies on a lot of Microsoft modules, so they can't make it run on any platform without the Microsoft software...  Personally, I would say that they would be better to do their own programming (instead of using Microsoft's) and have the option of offering Microstation on a different platform.

--Robert

RobertArnold said:

One of the issues is that Bentley now relies on a lot of Microsoft modules

MicroStation is based on many 3rd party libraries, where Microsoft ones represent a fraction only.

RobertArnold said:

Personally, I would say that they would be better to do their own programming (instead of using Microsoft's)

It's extremely complicated (and really expensive) to do it today. Software development in last 20 years is based on using libraries developed by somebody else. To become completely independent is impossible even for very simple desktop applications, at least because of complexity to design and develop responsive modern GUI.

RobertArnold said:

and have the option of offering Microstation on a different platform.

MicroStation is developed using Microsoft tools (compiler, linker, C-runtime) for ... at least last 20 years? Even when it would be possible to remove all libraries existing only for Windows (which is not possible), to move to another OS requires to change compiler. And it would be probably huge task with similar complexity.

But when talking not about MicroStation, Bentley is not "Windows only company". Especially important is iModelJS, open-source Bentley technology, representing a basis of Bentley cloud services like iModel Hub or new Design Review, and also new integration tools like iTwin Synchronizer (delivered with MicroStation CE U14). iModelJS is developed from very beginning as multiplatform, supporting Windows, Apple and Linux at backend and nearly anything at frontend (because it's web browser based).

With regards,

  Jan

@Jan

well, these might be web browser based, but I have just tried the PlantSight using latest Firefox browser and got just error message about I have to use latest Chrome. thanks I don't  want to. so, the future is probably not so bright ...

We are stealing the subject of this discussion a bit... ;-)

Peter Tegza said:

but I have just tried the PlantSight using latest Firefox browser and got just error message about I have to use latest Chrome

I do not know PlantSight, so I cannot react.

But because PlantSight is often mentioned as iTwins solution, based on iModelJS, it sounds a bit weird, because iModelJS platform itself supports Firefox officially (plus also less common browser like Opera). But the technology itself is modular and developing rapidly, so maybe they use an older version or extended it by custom code, written specifically for Chrome (which is wrong decision at all).

I play with iModelJS and testing Bentley cloud services with Firefox also and I do not encounter any problem.

Peter Tegza said:

thanks I don't  want to

Unfortunately it's common situation today that web based solutions are developed (or at least optimized and tested primarily) for Chromium browser (do not mix it with Chrome). But it's based on a pragmatic decision: Chrome itself is used by over 60% of all users, when all Chromium browsers (Edge etc.) represent total majority of market.

Another reason is decreasing quality (and also popularity) of Firefox itself, so it's less and less interesting to be used as primary development environment.

With regards,

  Jan

We are stealing the subject of this discussion a bit... ;-)

Peter Tegza said:

but I have just tried the PlantSight using latest Firefox browser and got just error message about I have to use latest Chrome

I do not know PlantSight, so I cannot react.

But because PlantSight is often mentioned as iTwins solution, based on iModelJS, it sounds a bit weird, because iModelJS platform itself supports Firefox officially (plus also less common browser like Opera). But the technology itself is modular and developing rapidly, so maybe they use an older version or extended it by custom code, written specifically for Chrome (which is wrong decision at all).

I play with iModelJS and testing Bentley cloud services with Firefox also and I do not encounter any problem.

Peter Tegza said:

thanks I don't  want to

Unfortunately it's common situation today that web based solutions are developed (or at least optimized and tested primarily) for Chromium browser (do not mix it with Chrome). But it's based on a pragmatic decision: Chrome itself is used by over 60% of all users, when all Chromium browsers (Edge etc.) represent total majority of market.

Another reason is decreasing quality (and also popularity) of Firefox itself, so it's less and less interesting to be used as primary development environment.

With regards,

  Jan