So, I have a notes page that consist of discrete blocks of texts. I have been diligent to make is such that I can flow from one block to the other in right order that I wanted, but I found that apparently, when more than one block of text gets selected, things get flipped. The order of the blocks of texts are correct and as I intended, but at the beginning and the end block, it apparently treats as if all texts runs from the end to the start. Let me do an example here below.
Imagine you have each of these lines as one block of Microstation text. The order of text selection goes from line 1, to 2, to 3. When you select between A and B, and all the way to between D and E, you will normally get all Bs, Cs, and Ds.
AAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBB
CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC
DDDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEEEE
However, current Microstation behavior I am seeing at my station seems like it will select As, Cs, and Es. How can I make it so that my texts flow from the beginning of each block, instead of the end?
Would you be able to provide details of the version of MicroStation you are currently using. It would also be helpful if you could provide an example or screen capture to help explain what is happening in relation to this query.
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RegardsAndrew BellTechnical SupportBentley Systems
As you can see within picture, some blue text has been highlighted. That is what happens when I select from that first paragraph to the last paragraph. It doesn't make sense at the first glance, but then you quickly realize that what it's doing is it took the end of block of node as the start and flipped it over. Make sense?
My version is 08.11.09.459.
At first glance from this example you provided it appears to be displaying fine. I think you will need to point to exactly what is happening to this text as I cannot see what you're trying to explain. Maybe if you supplied an example design file?
So, the problem isn't that it wasn't displaying fine. This isn't a display problem. We are NOT talking about display order if that is what I was not being clear about.
Essentially, imagine you have a word document, you select text and it flows around the page, typically from when you start dragging to where you release your click drag. For example, if I select text on this webpage, it will select stuff that goes where you start selecting, to where you end selecting. I have screenshot it below with red marks showing how I click dragged my cursor to select what I wanted to.
The issue becomes, how microstation text gets organized within the PDF file when I plot multiple blocks of text for note pages. For instance, I zoomed in further for this one paragraph here that I have plotted from Micro. I have used red arrows to mark the click drag operation, with the start of the arrow at my start of drag and tip of the arrow at the end. It might look normal at the first glance, but look closer - the text selected doesn't flow right. English doesn't go right-to-left, it should have gone left-to-right.
So, this can be caused by the text thinking that we are in an RTL instead of LTR language. But after some testing, that is not the case. The problem appears to be caused by the plot of the block of text (PDF) from microstation has started these texts from the last line of the node instead of the first. Which, brings us back to what I showed within my first example.
Here, you can easily see 3 "titles" for each "block" of text. The body are all one single node, whereas the title is another node, making the total number of text nodes here 6. I have ordered the text nodes by creation sequencing, so that it flows according to the page. In here, I click dragged from the middle of the first paragraph (i.e. text node # 2 per sequence), to the middle of the last paragraph (i.e. text node # 6 per sequence). Ideally, what should happen is that the pink box below gets selected, but as you can see, the selection is totally off. And with how the selection ran within our example here, it is not an LTR vs RTL text flow problem. It will appears that Micro just simply took the last line of the text node as start, and start of the text node as end.
Will there be an effective way to resolve this problem? Or is it just a Microstation bug?
Andrew Bell said:I think you will need to point to exactly what is happening to this text as I cannot see what you're trying to explain. Maybe if you supplied an example design file?
I agree: the screenshots don't help to explain the unwelcome text behaviour.
I S Chan said:imagine you have a word document, you select text and it flows around the page
MicroStation is not a word processor. It's a spatial editor. Blocks of text (text elements? text nodes?) are not connected. You can't select mutiple text elements and pretend that they form a paragraph.
Post a DGN example with text that illustrates your problem. You've redacted confidential information, so it might be best if you were to prepare a test case and attach that DGN file to your post here.
Regards, Jon Summers LA Solutions